AFTER GUILTY PLEAS IN 2020, FORMER CORPS DIRECTOR ATTENDS HIS FIRST DCI EVENTS

[saxfreq1128]

2 hours ago, mingusmonk said:

 

That math equation is absurd. His contributions do not earn him free pass. I side with the victims on this. They should have a safe place in the activity. If that means it is at GH's expense, so be it.

Right. 

And: If anything, *HE* has put *HIS OWN* legacy at risk. This is not a matter of his contributions being sullied by the rest of us. He did that himself. He is the reason his name will always have an asterisk. He is why we cannot think about “the good years” without having to reconcile that with what was going on at exactly the same time, to the people in the very corps we’re supposedly celebrating. He did that. Not us. 

[Jeff Ream]

On 8/6/2022 at 3:32 PM, gbass598 said:

But he not a sexual predator in the eyes of the law. He did not have to register as one. if DCI wants to go down that slope, are they asking ticketmaster to scan their database of purchased tickets against a sexual predator database and keeping all of them out? There are plenty of former band directors and drum corps staff members who actually are registered sex offenders who could be attending events.

I often wonder how banning someone from a facility actually works. For example, if I run out onto the field naked at a MLB game and get banned from returning to that stadium, do they make every who works there memorize what i look like? There are plenty of easy ways I could get into the stadium without anyone knowing who I am to watch a game with thousands of people. They might remove me from that event but it would be pretty hard to keep me out permanently. I feel like all of those "bans" are empty threats that are never really enforced and therefore never actually challenged.

Dci is saying he violated their code of conduct. As a HOF member at one time I believe they all got a lifetime vip pass

[Jeff Ream]

23 hours ago, scheherazadesghost said:

Hey folks, dropping this in this thread instead of the Fri Allentown one because I truly don't want to draw more attention to there.

If I ever seem impatient (or when I HULK OUT) about the status quo of fans in this community valuing relatively little things over the big issues...

...it's because since I came forward with my story in April I have come to know the stories of 12 survivors and 1 deceased person whose abuse, neglect, or harassment happened in drum corps spanning the last 40 years. I marched with at least 6 of them and remain in contact with about just as many. At least 3 of them told me they know more than one other person who was treated worse. Several of them will no longer return my contact because unearthing these stories (and seeing so little response from the community) triggers them deeply. One has literally said to me see, this is why I can't do this!

I do my best to contain my frustration and pent up anger about it, but sometimes, when I watch even the most beautiful performances by these amazing MMs who have resurrected the activity we love... I still see harmful choreographic choices that should have been remedied in the time between when I marched and now. And that's just what I see on the field using my training and expertise in artistic process.

Again, it just so happens that I can't point at a top 5 corps that hasn't hired (1) one of my abusers, (2) a staffer who enabled abuse, or (3) staffers or MMs (at the time) who witnessed abuse and have said nothing about it... except at the BAC, of course. All of these issues are connected and it all comes down to power and control (something @Jeff Ream mentioned as deeply problematic a few pages back.)

I won't apologize for my outbursts. As a survivor, I can't always control them.

I will apologize that I'm clearly not yet describing my stance in a way that is striking enough, digestible, or understandable for this community. This is truly my goal. But seeing as there have been so few survivors willing to step forward staking their names and reputations, I hope I can be forgiven for not knowing how to do this well yet.

I'm taking a break for the rest of the season from DCP at my loved ones' request. I hope to enjoy finals on Flo away from community.

If anyone would like to contact me, they're welcome to inbox me here on DCP or email me at scvmercy at proton dot me. ProtonMail is an encrypted email service and I do not share anyone's story without explicit consent.

My best wishes to you all and BRING IT OHM SANTA CLARA!

Be strong and healthy 

[Jeff Ream]

Being there both days, lots of tail gating and seeing friends from all over… and being near the Cadets alumni gathering and talking to many dci folks lots of people had their eyes out for him, but no one saw him. A few choice quotes on what would happen if he was seen but I’ll protect the originators of those quotes 

[JimF-LowBari]

37 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:

The teams have to get permission as it was a celebration of the 80 championship season

Great timing as today was the celebration and he said something sexist to a Philly female reporter. IOW don’t get snarky with your response and end it with “babe”.

Connection to DCI: now people are even more POed at Rose and how the Phillies organization handled things. Just replace Phillies with DCI and Rose with …:

[njthundrrd]

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Edited August 7, 2022 by njthundrrd

[lawdn]

On 8/6/2022 at 2:33 PM, scheherazadesghost said:

Hey folks, dropping this in this thread instead of the Fri Allentown one because I truly don't want to draw more attention to there.

If I ever seem impatient (or when I HULK OUT) about the status quo of fans in this community valuing relatively little things over the big issues...

...it's because since I came forward with my story in April I have come to know the stories of 12 survivors and 1 deceased person whose abuse, neglect, or harassment happened in drum corps spanning the last 40 years. I marched with at least 6 of them and remain in contact with about just as many. At least 3 of them told me they know more than one other person who was treated worse. Several of them will no longer return my contact because unearthing these stories (and seeing so little response from the community) triggers them deeply. One has literally said to me see, this is why I can't do this!

I do my best to contain my frustration and pent up anger about it, but sometimes, when I watch even the most beautiful performances by these amazing MMs who have resurrected the activity we love... I still see harmful choreographic choices that should have been remedied in the time between when I marched and now. And that's just what I see on the field using my training and expertise in artistic process.

Again, it just so happens that I can't point at a top 5 corps that hasn't hired (1) one of my abusers, (2) a staffer who enabled abuse, or (3) staffers or MMs (at the time) who witnessed abuse and have said nothing about it... except at the BAC, of course. All of these issues are connected and it all comes down to power and control (something @Jeff Ream mentioned as deeply problematic a few pages back.)

I won't apologize for my outbursts. As a survivor, I can't always control them.

I will apologize that I'm clearly not yet describing my stance in a way that is striking enough, digestible, or understandable for this community. This is truly my goal. But seeing as there have been so few survivors willing to step forward staking their names and reputations, I hope I can be forgiven for not knowing how to do this well yet.

I'm taking a break for the rest of the season from DCP at my loved ones' request. I hope to enjoy finals on Flo away from community.

If anyone would like to contact me, they're welcome to inbox me here on DCP or email me at scvmercy at proton dot me. ProtonMail is an encrypted email service and I do not share anyone's story without explicit consent.

My best wishes to you all and BRING IT OHM SANTA CLARA!

Be well, take good care, and please know many, many people on DCP will welcome you back if and when you choose to return. You have educated and raised awareness effectively for me and doubtless others on issues critical to the well-being of marching members and others in the activity, and to the survival of the activity itself. It is no fault of yours if the pace of progress is slower than it should be. Thank you for raising your voice and helping us move forward. 

[IllianaLancerContra]

3 hours ago, JimF-LowBari said:

Great timing as today was the celebration and he said something sexist to a Philly female reporter. IOW don’t get snarky with your response and end it with “babe”.

Connection to DCI: now people are even more POed at Rose and how the Phillies organization handled things. Just replace Phillies with DCI and Rose with …:

So will gh be at a 3rd rate Vegas casino selling autographs for $15 each (with no one in line)?  Saw this w/ Rose in Vegas about 20 yrs ago. 

Edited August 8, 2022 by IllianaLancerContra

[bluesman]

3 hours ago, mingusmonk said:

 

That math equation is absurd. His contributions do not earn him free pass. I side with the victims on this. They should have a safe place in the activity. If that means it is at GH's expense, so be it.

Who said anything about a free pass?  IMO he should have spent a considerable amount of time in prison and be required to register as a sex offender.  I said as much in the comment you replied to.  

[George Dixon]

1 hour ago, njthundrrd said:

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my thoughts EXACTLY