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FWIW, ESPN Classic showed the entire halftimes, uncut, with no commentary as part of their "Sounds of the Game" channel.

Mike

I wish I had tried that channel. I had heard it would be on the SpiderCam channel and they showed a little of the Oregon band before going to a commercial and then a black screen.

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That wasn't on my TV. You must be rich folk affording loads of stations.

It was on ESPN3 on the Internet.

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Oregon's band blew OSU's off the field.

Thanks for that information. I am pleasantly surprised - as the football game didn't go so well for our fine feathered friends :(

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Thanks for that information. I am pleasantly surprised - as the football game didn't go so well for our fine feathered friends :(

Quality of sound was hard to gauge on ESPN Classic....not HD and sound pickup was marginal.....both shows had some entertainment value. I thought both bands had mucho phasing issues in their marching. There are high school bands that would blow U of Oregon off the field, by the way....not to mention the Oregon Crusaders, who would eat them for breakfast.

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Oh there was a game? :devil: Anyone know if it's true that OSUs semester started this week so the players/band/etc were missing the start of class in the interest of TV ratings? Trying to remember where the full rant I read was at. Probably columnist for NY Daily News this past Sunday as usually read that to get info ocal paper misses.

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Oh there was a game? :devil: Anyone know if it's true that OSUs semester started this week so the players/band/etc were missing the start of class in the interest of TV ratings? Trying to remember where the full rant I read was at. Probably columnist for NY Daily News this past Sunday as usually read that to get info ocal paper misses.

Both schools were in session. Oregon's semester started last week, while Ohio State's semester started yesterday, so the rant you read should have been focused on Oregon, since its players missed an entire week of classes.

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Both schools were in session. Oregon's semester started last week, while Ohio State's semester started yesterday, so the rant you read should have been focused on Oregon, since its players missed an entire week of classes.

Well it was an East Coast paper.... And adding that would have strengthed the writers point so shame on him for not putting in more effort in his fact checking. Thanks.....

Bias alert: I went to a Div II school and sister went to Div III so think the attention paid to Div I "name" FB is overblown. *shrug* Also living in a name schools (Penn State) "home" area and getting pounded with FB news almost 365 days a year (seriously) can turn you off too. Kinda like hearing the same song over and over until you're sick of hearing it.....

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I dont think college band is a competition. Both were very entertaining in their own right, and I enjoyed both thoroughly.

I think this is the thing to keep in mind when discussing college marching band. It's not high school BOA, TOC, US Bands, etc. It's not drum corps competition. For the most part, the college marching band is put together specifically to enhance the Game Day experience. Period. Some college bands utilize a drum corps style (kind of drum corps lite), some are show bands, some are swing bands, some military, and some perform a more dance-based show.

I love the variety of college marching band. Even the Blue Devils re-posted one of Ohio State's shows from this past season because of it's creativity and entertainment value. They didn't re-post the show (on Facebook) because it could beat other corps or college bands. That wasn't the point.

Many of the big college bands (power 5 conference bands and some others) operate somewhat as follows:

- 1 week band camp

- 2 hours per day of rehearsals, 5 days a week

- dress rehearsal on game day and pre-game and half-time performances

- most of these groups perform 6 to 8 different shows each fall (NOT ONE SHOW for 15 weeks).

Someone mentioned how the Oregon Crusaders would eat the lunch of the Oregon College Marching Band. Sure, if we're talking about OC in the late summer when they are clean and the legs and syncing, the music is clicking, and the GE is locking in. Last time I checked, OC performs ONE show for all of spring and summer. They rehearse 8 to 12 hours per day. They have a corps camp of 30+ days, on the same 12 minutes of music and drill. Oh, and the kids are NOT in school at the time, especially at the college level where they are taking advanced classes.

Ohio State MB worked up, I believe, 9 shows this year. NINE!!!! Not one in which they rehearsed 8+ hours per day in summer weather while not being in school, beating the crap out of 12+ minutes of music and drill for the entire spring and summer. These are important differences to understand.

Knowing what I do about the OSU MB, I can tell you that if we took the best 110 members of that band, added 40 guard, and took them to spring training for 30+ days, then on the road for DCI competition for the summer, rehearsing 8+ hours per day on ONE show only, well...that would be one talented World Class drum corps. No, they probably would not beat the likes of the top 7 (although a lot of this depends on the instructional staff), but they would be very good. I believe with the right staff and show they could be top 12 good. I suspect that could be the case with a number of excellent college marching bands in the country. Georgia, FSU, UT Austin, U. of North Texas, Jacksonville State, Western Carolina, Michigan and Michigan State, and on and on.

What is the top 7 in DCI anyway? In large part it's comprised of drum corps that recruit mostly college-level players, many of whom march with their school's marching band. The difference is that those top drum corps are collecting the best talents from many of those great college, and some high school, marching bands. So they are, in essence, All-Star ensembles that can spend all their time on ONE show. They begin show prep over Thanksgiving weekend, offer mini-camps through early spring, then hold a 30+ day corps camp, and then tour for 2 months. They have unlimited rehearsal time (or seemingly so) vs. a school ensemble that must rehearse in the midst of a busy class schedule when students have other considerations and jobs.

Lastly, need I mention the teaching staff. The top drum corps have 20, 25, even over 30+ staff and techs. In the 22 years I have taught college marching band, 18 of those as a head director, I had 1 percussion instructor, 1 flag instructor, a majorette coordinator, and a student helper. That's it. And I didn't have those people for every rehearsal. Many small-school bands are lucky to get 3 to 4 hours per week of rehearsal time.

The reason I choose to rant about this (and my apologies to all of you for this) is that every time college marching band gets discussed on this forum it turns into how DCI is better, which corps would beat college bands, and which college bands are better than other college bands. Blah, blah, blah...and who really cares. College band is for the game day experience. There may be a few that compete. Good for them. Most exist for fun, entertaining shows that promote the game day experience, school pride, etc. But it's many of those same students from college marching bands all over the country who comprise our top drum corps in the summer.

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