C.Holland Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, njthundrrd said: May 15 to the second Saturday in Aug is about 12 weeks - 6000/12 = $500 a week. 3 value meals from a fast food chain a day 3 meals a day x $8 meal = $24 - $24x84 days on tour and spring training = roughly $2000 Back the food out and 84 days of drum costs - $48 a day! A great price for the experience. 1. The last combo I purchased with a small drink and fries cost me $13. 2. You can’t feed members this crap 4 meals a day and expect them to perform well. Or last all season on it. It’s not nutritional. 3. your meal hour just turned into to 2 hours getting everyone to, fed, and from whatever your nearest to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironlips Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, Fran Haring said: I still think 50-cent beers at shows would bring in the crowds. Even if the crowds are too drunk to care about what they're watching. Fran speaks as someone who marched in a certain era. I too remember the Boonton show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironlips Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, njthundrrd said: I say this every year when these type of threads are made. Let's just say "Corps X's" tuition is $6000 a year. May 15 to the second Saturday in Aug is about 12 weeks - 6000/12 = $500 a week. 3 value meals from a fast food chain a day 3 meals a day x $8 meal = $24 - $24x84 days on tour and spring training = roughly $2000 Back the food out and 84 days of drum costs - $48 a day! A great price for the experience. A local soccer camp at a university this summer is $800 for 5 days / 4 nights with meals and housing - That equates to over $13000 for the 84 days of drum corps. Last thought, If "Corps X" charges $6000 for the summer and has a $1.8 million budget, then tuition is only 50% of their budget and the rest is done through fundraising and sponsorships. So, in essence, each member in the corps gets 50% off their actual cost per person to start by the corps lowering the costs for everyone. I believe that EVERY single drum corps needs one or more "side hustles" ... Bingo, CrownSTORE, music festivals... Something to have a revenue source outside of normal drum corps "business." If it is something outside of our drum corps world and will attract more customers? Even better! Do I believe some expenses for the corps could be managed better? Could the tour help reduce cost? Those are all great questions that I am sure the the director'd of the corps, their respective boards, and DCI are having conversation about. As for the OP's dilemma? I would like to see more young people be in drum corps and for their to be more drum corps, but unfortunately, without a student getting financial help from their realm of friends and family or working your ### off and saving your money, drum corps is not for everyone. No matter how talented they are. I do know of some creative ways young people made money to march (that are legal). lol I believe scholarships are also for members that have been in the corps for at least 2-3 years and not for people that jump from corps to corps. What if every age out with more than 2-3+ years with that corps marched for free if scholarships were only given to them? How great would that be? Just my $0.02 from a guy that has some practical experience with this. Flame away! A very good analysis here, and several practical suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terri Schehr Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 58 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said: I walked away for 10 years as real life interfered. If I don’t like I’ll just walk away again. No muss, no bother and definitely no griping about “real DC”. Guess I should gripe about “real NBA” and “real sprint car racing” as used to follow them in the past and now no interest I would never presume to think that anyone gives a #### if I go to Indy. Edited January 22, 2023 by Terri Schehr 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said: I would never presume to think that anyone gives a #### if I go to Indy. Well haven’t been to DCA in person since 2013…. Did anyone notice. 😆 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terri Schehr Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said: Well haven’t been to DCA in person since 2013…. Did anyone notice. 😆 I stopped going in 2018. I think. I can’t even remember. 😂 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOC Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 8 hours ago, Slingerland said: Flutes on the field in Open Class won't really drive anyone away, the same way that violins, guitars, and cellos in World Class didn't. Not yet. When more WC corps start using those instruments and more than a couple of them, then you'll see the empty seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim K Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 9 hours ago, Terri Schehr said: I never thought it was about me. Even when I marched. I’m not the one walking around thinking I’m the God or Goddess of all things drum corps. They’re down on the track. The original comment has been edited, but I would like to know the source of the 12% of the audience being “old farts.” I know some shows I’ve attended in the past have had younger crowds, namely NightBEAT and Atlanta, some shows clearly older. I think whether Eliquis is an effective blood thinner and whether Lisinopril keeps blood pressure under control could be hot topics in the stands at Allentown, not so much at others. Regarding Indy, the crowd gets younger as the days progress, with Saturday being the youngest, but depending what qualifies as “old fart,” I would say the 50-plus crowd is more than 12%. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keystone3ply Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Fran Haring said: I still think 50-cent beers at shows would bring in the crowds. Even if the crowds are too drunk to care about what they're watching. That would be great but it wouldn't help my drinking problem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craiga Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tim K said: The original comment has been edited, but I would like to know the source of the 12% of the audience being “old farts.” I know some shows I’ve attended in the past have had younger crowds, namely NightBEAT and Atlanta, some shows clearly older. I think whether Eliquis is an effective blood thinner and whether Lisinopril keeps blood pressure under control could be hot topics in the stands at Allentown, not so much at others. Regarding Indy, the crowd gets younger as the days progress, with Saturday being the youngest, but depending what qualifies as “old fart,” I would say the 50-plus crowd is more than 12%. I think our shows here in the Boston area tend to have older audiences, as does Allentown. The Texas shows I have been to have been obviously much younger audiences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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