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1 hour ago, 2muchcoffeeman said:

Stipulated: DCI membership in any given corps is more national today than ever. But California is the single largest "back yard" of talent in the USA. There is no other state with a potential membership pool within such close proximity as it is to any corps anywhere in Cali, let alone the uber-populated region from the Central Valley to the Bay Area. Why farm Texas when you're sitting smack in the middle of the world's 5th-largest economy? Why sweat the Midwest when your own state has as many people as multiple Midwestern states put together?

There's something fundamentally broken about the idea that a 150-member ensemble situated amid one of the richest pools of human talent on the planet would, as a matter of survival, need to set up a recruiting booth two time zones away, at the Iowa Music Educators Assocation conference.

Not to mention how many students from Iowa have ever marched SCV.

[GetOFFmyDot]

 

Outside a few programs, marching band is dying in California. 

I think people who keep saying "California is the largest source of talent for drum corps" are not informed of the reality.

Increasingly, many high schools no longer have a marching band. I've heard that bands competing have dropped to half of what they were 15 years ago.

Times they are a changing.

[Jeff Ream]

3 hours ago, 2muchcoffeeman said:

Stipulated: DCI membership in any given corps is more national today than ever. But California is the single largest "back yard" of talent in the USA. There is no other state with a potential membership pool within such close proximity as it is to any corps anywhere in Cali, let alone the uber-populated region from the Central Valley to the Bay Area. Why farm Texas when you're sitting smack in the middle of the world's 5th-largest economy? Why sweat the Midwest when your own state has as many people as multiple Midwestern states put together?

There's something fundamentally broken about the idea that a 150-member ensemble situated amid one of the richest pools of human talent on the planet would, as a matter of survival, need to set up a recruiting booth two time zones away, at the Iowa Music Educators Assocation conference.

why Texas?

 

cheaper. thats 5th economy is expensive as hell.

 

and yeah Cali is huge. but Texas music in schools is the envy of the world.

[cixelsyd]

11 hours ago, 2muchcoffeeman said:

There's something fundamentally broken about the idea that a 150-member ensemble situated amid one of the richest pools of human talent on the planet would, as a matter of survival, need to set up a recruiting booth two time zones away, at the Iowa Music Educators Assocation conference.

Maybe the move from 150 to 165 demanded they add Iowa to the recruiting campaign.

[IllianaLancerContra]

13 hours ago, copyright said:

Not to mention how many students from Iowa have ever marched SCV.

Wasn’t Gail Royer originally from Iowa?

[OldSnareDrummer]

3 hours ago, IllianaLancerContra said:

Wasn’t Gail Royer originally from Iowa?

Thought I read at one time yes, born and also buried in Iowa. 

[keystone3ply]

3 hours ago, IllianaLancerContra said:

Wasn’t Gail Royer originally from Iowa?

 

4 minutes ago, OldSnareDrummer said:

Thought I read at one time yes, born and also buried in Iowa. 

Gowrie, Iowa

[2muchcoffeeman]

17 hours ago, GetOFFmyDot said:

 

I've heard that bands competing have dropped to half of what they were 15 years ago.

Times they are a changing.

If you cut the population of California in half -- and by extension eliminated a full 50% of all CA high schools altogether, including those that still have marching band programs -- California would still be the nation's 3rd-largest state, bigger than New York. If there is a Swiss-chees-ing of the scholastic music scene in CA, it isn't going to drain the pool of in-state talent potential available to a handful of world-class DCI ensembles. (FWIW, the number of California high schools marching bands listed at marching.com is greater than the number listed in Texas -- exactly what you'd expect to see in a state larger than Texas.)

Other Sunbelt states are growing at faster rates, though given CA's overwhelming size, it's comparatively slower growth rate still generates new residents in numbers comparable to the Sunbelt states.

Cali is undeniably expensive. Yet its GDP is growing at a rate faster than the national average. Its contribution to the national GDP is, by far, the largest of any state. It's nearly 70% greater than that of No. 2 Texas, even though CA has only 30% more people than TX. CA is simply a higher-performing engine.

California isn't some spent force. It has the largest hoard of the ultimate source of the value of capital: people. Plenty of those people, and businesses, and nonprofits, have figured out how to thrive there. If SCV can't hang with them, that's on VMAPA, not California.

 

 

Edited March 22, 2023 by 2muchcoffeeman

[JimF-LowBari]

Keep reading about CA residents marching CA corps. Sure CA has lot of potential members and music programs. What’s forgotten is how huge CA is in size. And with BD and SCV close together (and Sacramento driving distance) just don’t see potential members at other ends of the state saying “yeah I’m going to march there just because it’s in my state.

[Slingerland]

4 hours ago, 2muchcoffeeman said:

 If SCV can't hang with them, that's on VMAPA, not California.

This, all day long.