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When my wife and I first came back to the USA after living most of 20 plus years overseas, one of my goals was to get back in touch with my drum corps roots. Drum corps was such a big part of my family growing up, as my sister, my brother, and I all marched in the activity with the Santa Clara Vanguard. Same situation with my wife's family as Rhonda marched a number of years with the Stardusters and Bleu Raeders. That travel bug we both got in drum corps carried over for the two of us after we got married. We lived and traveled to many places around the world - Seoul, Korea; Tokyo, Japan; Honolulu (Ok – Honolulu is not quite "overseas" but it's about as far as you can get from the mainland); Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Germany (outside of Munich), and Naples (Napoli), Italy (our favorite place). Having marched seven years in drum corps, we decided to get back in touch with our old drum corps roots, and even take our grandsons along to see what Noni and Popi actually did in their youthful years. Since we marched in the 1966 to 1972 time frame I was sure drum corps changed quite a bit from our time, but I guess I didn't realize how much that change would actually be. I thought I'd start by locating the old Drum Corps Digest Magazine, which was the bible for finding out what was happening in the drum corps world back in our day. Well, I quickly found out that the Drum Corps Digest Magazine no longer existed. In searching the internet I found Drum Corps World had migrated over to the digital world, and also discovered corpsrep.com and drumcorpsplanet.com. After reading and catching up on past history, we were glad to see many of the old familiar drum corps names that made us smile - The Cadets (I knew as Garfield), Santa ClaraVanguard (my alma mater), The Cavaliers, Blue Stars, Boston Crusaders, Madison Scouts, Casper Troopers, and surprisingly the Blue Devils (in my day they were a drum and bell corps). We discovered many of the old classic corps were no longer with us – The Kilties, 27thLancers, Argonne Rebels, Des Plaines Vanguard, Bleu Raeders (my wife's alma mater), The Muchachos, The Bridgemen and alas, one of my old favorites, The Anaheim Kingsmen. To us it was like being in a time machine where time completely stood still (at least in drum corps time) and then we come back to the future – the drum corps future where all kinds of changes had taken place – dancing, pits, talking, electronics, no starting gun, keyboards, props, microphones, etc … We were totally blown away with the evolution drum corps had taken. The more I dug into the current events of drums corps the more I discovered that not everyone was happy with this evolution. That divide came out in the discussion on the drumcorpsplanet forum between what I call "old school" drum corps loyalists (dinosaurs) and (for lack of a better name) the new "progressive drum corps". All this activity or wag of the finger seemed to be pointed at somebody named "Hop". "Next thing you know they'll be carrying clarinets on the field! - It's all Hop's fault!" The more we read the more we desperately wanted to see a drum corps show (and who the heck is "Hop"?). We wanted to see what everyone was talking about with all these changes to drum corps. My mentor growing up was Gail Royer (Santa Clara Vanguard Director). Gail was an innovator, always a part of the changing direction drums corps was taking back in our day, introducing technical classical music to the drums corps world (Procession of the Nobles – Rimsky-Korsakov) for example. So what could be so bad in today's drums corps world that would get so many of the old drum corps vets so riled up? We were curious. The first drum corps show we were able to attend was in 2007 in Albuquerque New Mexico at the "Drums along the Sandias" competition. I was glad to see an old high school stadium where you could feel the full impact from the corps on the field. We had excellent seats, up high in the stands right on the 50 yard line. The headline corps that night was the Phantom Regiment, with several other corps. To properly put this night into prospective, the last live drum corps show Rhonda and I attended was in 1972 in Whitewater, Wisconsin at the very first DCI Championship. To top it off, we both marched that show. We suddenly realized our drums corps experience was only from the marching side of the field, never from the stands. So here we were, 35 years later, coming out of our self induced drum corps exile and for the first time seeing a drum corps show from the spectator viewpoint. Saying we were utterly shocked by what we saw on the field that night would be putting it mildly! The way these kids moved on the field, the level of musical talent displayed, and the quality of the shows completely blew us away. We never moved and performed like these kids were moving on the field! The quality of the sound from the various corps was unbelievable, the drum line stick work was amazing, and the color guards were doing things with the rifles and sabers that were completely mind-boggling. It truly humbled us. As we left the stadium that evening we quickly realized that there was no way to compare what we did on the field to what these kids were doing today. It was like it was a completely different activity. The talent was incredible! The first thing we said to each other was – "We gotta go to DCI Championships this year!" And our re-immersion into the world of drum corps began. Today the best way to describe Rhonda and myself is that we are both still true blue drum corps dinosaurs, but with a new found appreciation of the progressive drum corps of today. After much discussion we realized, had we followed drum corps over the years we too might have a different out look on the evolution of drum corps. Would we be blaming it all on "Hop" as well? Maybe so, but much like Gail Royer was a mover and changer in his day by introducing classical arrangements to drum corps and being a part of establishing DCI, so too is George Hopkins ("Hop") with today's drum corps. Some of his contributions have been a bit more controversial (scripted dialogue on the microphone as part of show comes to mind), but with today's instant communication tools, like Facebook, MySpace, YouTube, and the drumcorpsplanet.com forum, comments (pro and con) now flow much faster, reaching a wider audience immediately. In a sense, I've come to see George Hopkins as the new Gail Royer. In our little "Back to the Future" time warp, it's like the old comics Cheech and Chong used to say – "it's like the same thing - only different". Jesse J. Amador, Albuquerque, New Mexico

I will start by saying I have over the last number of years grown very open minded to everything drum corps and marching arts related. I love the old school. Without it, we would not have the activity we have today. I love the modern too. Without progression, our activity makes no progress (master of the obvious, right). Yet, I know there are those out there that prefer one over the other. We all are entitled to that. However, when we argue sometimes so rabidly about it, I now have to ask (as of today), why do we argue? Afterall, who's DCI activity is it? DCI is for the kids, right? DCA has the Alumni exibitions for the old schoolers - I'll talk more about that on a later post (after this gets a few replies). what do the kids want? Well, I can't speak for all kids perhaps but I can tell you of a conversation I had with my 11 year old daughter today. I was enjoying some old Legacy DVDs from 1976 this afternoon (still love those years, always will). My daughter sat and watched with me kind of quietly until I hear "Dad?"..."Yes sweety?" I answered, "These shows don't tell a story like last years corps did, do they" she asked. "No, your right. They don't. Just marching and playing." She stayed quiet for about 60 more seconds until I asked the next question. "So which do you like better?" I asked. "Oh definitely the story telling corps, dad. Much more interesting. I really like that corps that did the horse show that you showed me (Crown 07). I really liked that "this is my rifle corps haha. Creepy but neat". I replied with a very simple "hmmm" and back to the video and watching quietly. Until the next corps came on. Once again I hear "Dad?"...."Yes sweety"..."Dad, um when this corps is done, can we watch last year's DVD"....to which I replied...."No sweety, we can watch that RIGHT NOW if you want". And the smile on both of our faces had to be priceless. What's my point? LOL! I don't know. Feel free to read into this post however you wish. I will simply watch and read your responses for a while. :) I have some ideas that I may share later. But for now. Post away. :-)

It's Cop and Madison. I think he'll call it how he sees it, but my guess is that his WOW was an enthusiastic one.

I voted #1. Probably the best graphical design I've seen from them in ages. Yeah, the music notes are hokey, but... this is drum corps after all.

It was part of a movie for Imax, called Pulse: A Stomp Odyssey. It had segments with drumming from all over the world. Pretty cool movie - worth checking out. http://www.amazon.com/Pulse-Odyssey-Keith-Wildchild-Middelton/dp/B000JBY13C Mike

This is a great story. One of my sons, 16yrs old and plays trumpet, marched Hurricanes last year because of a time commitment and they are close to us. He had a great experience the entire year, but most specifically, on July 4th weekend, they marched in a few parades with Phantom, Cadets and several other WC corps. He had the unique opportunity to run through warmups watching Phantom, and then was asked to participate with Phantom in the horn arc. If he was not hooked before, he was then! The interesting thing to come out of his time with Phantom, was his critical eye toward all of the WC corps, as he started to evaluate for his future marching endeavors. He quickly decided that any of the corps that use guitars and over use synth's were the corps he would stay away from. Leaning more towards the corps that tell a story with their marching and music, than the ones that want to use the electronics and voice to tell that story. I like the fact that he was evaluating on his own. I never told him my opinion of electronics. But he nailed my thoughts exactly - tell me a story, as I do appreciate that part of the drum corps evolution. Just use the art form to tell me. Don't use your voice, and don't over use the electronics to tel me either. Thanks for this story. It was awesome!

This. Music City, perhaps?

Oh, I love it when parents yell "THEY WERE BORN READY!" Really? Then how come at rehearsal I'm always WAITING on your daughter to get set?

If the consensus is that the Jersey Surf are in good shape financially and have practiced solid fiscal decisions for over 20 years and the director is a rational and intelligent man AND we have no direct knowledge of the risk the corps projects...why would anyone question the action as a business decision??? There are very few corps that do not offer very similar programs. The difference here is that the Surf are being honest and upfront about the opportunity. Credit Mr. Jacobs for taking one of the dirty little secrets of drum corps and turning it into a marketing and positioning opportunity for his corps. I hope kids flock to the Surf, especially those who were originally not able to march this season. Unless this Mr. Stu has a specific axe to grind against Bob Jacobs or the Surf, I see no logical motivation for his repeated attempts to poke holes in the "Name Your Own Price" offer.

Western Carolina University. One of the best college marching bands, if not the best.

Have fun.

I'm pleased to announce the details of this year's SPRING PREVIEW concert, to be held at Twin Valley HS on Saturday, May 7. We are thrilled to welcome to the Preview the 2010 DCA Class A World Champions - Fusion Core! This is always a great evening of incredible drum corps music - make plans to join us! BUCCANEERS, TWIN VALLEY HS BAND TO HOST 7th ANNUAL SPRING PREVIEW CONCERT MAY 7 Reading, PA (April 7, 2010) The Reading Buccaneers Drum & Bugle Corps and the Twin Valley High School Band will host the 7th Annual Spring Preview, a Drum & Bugle Corps Concert, on Saturday, May 7, 2010, at 7:00 p.m. The concert will take place in the Twin Valley High School auditorium, 4897 S. Twin Valley Road, Elverson, PA 19520. The Spring Preview has become a much-anticipated mainstay of the indoor drum and bugle corps concert calendar and features some of the world's best all-age competing and alumni corps in exhibition. The concert's proceeds will benefit the Twin Valley High School band program and the Reading Buccaneers. The concert will be the public's first opportunity to hear the ten-time and six-time defending Drum Corps Associates World Champion Reading Buccaneers, as the corps unveils its 2011 music program, A Dancer's Dream. The corps' repertoire includes The Chairman Dances (Foxtrot for Orchestra), by John Adams, Danzón No. 2, by Arturo Marquez, Swan Lake, by Peter Tchaikovsky, and Mambo from Symphonic Dances from "West Side Story," by Leonard Bernstein. In addition to the Buccaneers, patrons will be treated to performances by the 2010 Drum Corps Associates Class A champion Fusion Core (Morris County, NJ), the Brassmen (Brooklyn, NY), Selden Cadets (Selden, Long Island, NY), Swing House (Carney's Point, NJ), Reilly Raiders (Willow Grove, PA), the Reading Buccaneers Alumni (Reading, PA). The day also presents a unique opportunity for drum corps aficionados to spend time meeting members from multiple corps and reconnect with old friends and many activity luminaries. There will be special items for raffle, including DCA Finals tickets, gift cards, gift baskets and Buccaneers memorabilia. Reserved seats are $14 apiece, and general admission seats are $12 apiece, and will be sold at the door. For advance ticket purchases, send a check payable to "Spring Preview" to Reading Buccaneers Spring Preview, 42 Harrigan Avenue, Monroe Township, NJ 08831. For a seating chart and additional information, visit www.springpreviewconcert.com or call 215.915.9617. www.springpreviewconcert.com

*Brooklyn* Oops... can't spell Brooklyn, clearly. This is pretty fun! Apparently this was from a movie, but saw it on Jersey Surf's Facebook! http://www.facebook.com/#!/JerseySurf

Five great DCI color guard moments Please note the opening paragraph about these five being the first five that popped into my mind. I've received more e-mails about this column than anything else I've ever written, and most were similar to, "Are you kidding? Those are the five greatest guard moments ever? Are you on crack? How could you forget (fill in name of corps here)? Also, for the multitudes of you who asked me why 27th Lancers weren't on my list...they were...as the sixth "bonus" top five. I was instructed to pick from different eras and I already had the Rockford File from that era. My editor did what editors do...he edited the "bonus" out. So, no, I don't hate 27th Lancers; they were one of my favorite corps. I have insisted to my editor (a generally good guy who gives me great ideas for columns...plus he's friendly to puppies) that in the future, on some date that makes sense, I take that paragraph and video link and expand upon it for a feature on 27th Lancers' guard. Also, I had two people send me e-mails asking how I could forget two specific shows...and each was run as a "Download of the Week" in the past two months. So, I'm on to some of you folk...You don't have your computers set up to automatically feed you every article I write. I'm so disillusioned. I've been keeping track of the e-mails I've received on this article and so far, I've been given eleven guard performances that MUST be on anyone's top-five list. Again, these just popped into my head as moments I wished to remember and share. And next year, if my brain is still working, I'll have five more. And next week, I'm going to do the same with percussion in honor of the WGI Indoor Marching Percussion World Championships. If I don't pick your favorite percussion moment, it can mean the following: I hate your favorite percussion line, I hate your favorite corps, or possibly, I hate you. Okay, that's my April Fools statement a few days late. (I was on vacation for two weeks and wasn't online the entire time.) The real reasons your list is probably different than mine is as follows: I'm an idiot, my opinions are stupid, I've been ingesting hallucinagenic catsup, and finally, we happen to have different opinions about which five moments I picked for this year. So enjoy and don't take the column too seriously. Remember, it's just the Internet. No one's going to get hurt. And stay away from the hallucinagenic catsup.

Wow = Looking forward to hear what the last few songs are.. :~)

Nominated for post of the year!

Who said We said she's wrong? The OP said his daughter enjoyed shows that tell a story. So, I suggested a few shows that I thought she might like. You know, older shows that tell a story. I mean, they REALLY tell a story, not an abstract concept; a story. Personally, I was curious to know if she would like THOSE older shows, which some on here consider dino shows. Then we would see if it's the story telling she likes, or the complexity, or what. No need to get crazy on us glory... She can see Skyriders, Garfield, SCV, Madison, et cetera, and their story telling shows on the telly & the current shows live. Maybe she'll like 'em both?

Fair enough. In my defense, I intended SkyRyders as an example in general and not specifically to address your thoughts. I do, however, stand by my comments. This reflexive need around here to downplay any positive reference to modern drum corps, particularly when its compared to older iterations, is ultimately destructive to the activity. Cadets '87 might still be my favorite corps of all time. That doesn't make corps who marched since unworthy of praise. And that's all the more so when it's someone else's preference. She liked Crown '07. Maybe, just maybe, that's indicative of positive prospects for drum corps. Can't we see that? HH

omg..how do you breathe from up there? all I said was show her some SkyRyders...If the daughter liked shows with stories, she'd like those Skyryders shows. I wasn't trying to convert her to some neo-conservative cult. Sometimes when someone says they like something, and you suggest something that is in the same vein as what they like, it doesn't have to have an agenda. She likes the Harry Potter books...I say check out the Eragon books.....you say...OMG, quit trying to change her to your nefarious ideology. really?

But think of the children Way to use a kid while painting some other posters inaccurately and with a rather broad brush to push your new school borg agenda Not that the OP didn’t do the same even though they tried to coyly deny it while playing innocent But isn’t that what drum corps is about anyway, adults using kids to their advantage

He tells us his daughter likes modern drum corps. Y'all tell us she’s wrong. Are you listening to yourselves? We get it – oh we get it – that you wish drum corps would revert to something, anything but the failure you see on the field today. You’ve made that point insistently and incessantly. Show her the great shows of the 80s, and she’ll see the light. She too can learn to hate modern drum corps as any sensible fan would if only you would educate her properly with Skyriders of blessed memory. True drum corps fans ought not be displeased in the slightest if she prefers Triple Crown or Mad World over the blessed memories of someone else’s experience. If she likes Triple Crown of 2007 more than 80s Brand X show we should be pleased at the prospect of one more fan rather than disappointed by preference, especially from one from one so young. We know this for sure. Young people won’t grow up loving corps the way we do if they don’t experience corps in the flesh. She’s never going to see Skyriders. She has chance to see Crown. We should be glad she might be excited by the prospect. And we ought to stifle our selfishness lest it ruin it for her forever. HH

#1 is the bomb. 'nuff said.

I think number 1 is the best. Angel on top (heaven), Demon on the bottom (hell). Gold and red music notes..I like it even if it is dorky lol...

I saw Beatrix from The Netherlands Anne Frank show I found it to be a very moving show! I loved it! Beatrix created wonderful emotion on the floor. Great Job!

if i didnt know what DCI was, i wouldnt pay a decent amount of money to go watch something called "tour of the top 8 from last season" or "top 8 of 2010". "tour of champions" has a better appeal to people not in the know. i do like how i'll be able to see some corps "live" this summer that i might have otherwise missed if i dont go to finals...

I think all three were great. I didn't vote for No. 1 becasue I doubted how well its complexity would play on a t-shirt. I didn't vote for No. 2 because that treatment suggested to me more "balance" than the "conflict" or "tension" I think the theme requires. No. 3, while balanced, also suggested movement in its simple curves and was thus my choice. I voted for it even though I don't want another black t-shirt! HH

Gah! I always give my parents and my sister a spacial place in my heart when I perform at Serenade. Last year, I also kept Bill Kellerman there, too. (Crossmen HoF) This year, Fran, Barb, Jim, and Sandy, you're all there too when I go on.

All that OP tells me is that you had a nice drum corps moment with your daughter that you wanted to share. Cool ! But if you’d like to speak to the bigger point, and it has been touched upon, too often the debate is framed as either old school or new school when it’s really to me, it’s more about shows, regardless of era. Perhaps if you showed her Regiment from 1976 where in the concert the rifles acted as the organ keyboards for the phantom she would have had a different take, just as if you showed her some show other show from last year. If I had to break it down to one single determent that might appeal to an 11 year old today – I’d say it was the presentation of the video itself. A bold colorful, multi angle clip with modern edits versus a grain, washed out, stagnate video clip of people in funny 70s outfits. A walk down the cereal aisle will tell you what works on kids I think a better, more fair comparison of old school vs. new school though a kids eyes would be Madison 2010 played next to the corps on either side of them in placement (Boston 2010 or Blue Knights 2010) . It’d be a more level playing field, personally, I enjoyed all 3 shows and would have them in my top 5 most enjoyable shows from last year. Thinking about, all three did have kind of old school musical arrangements so yeah, I’m busted on my arranging tastes

I heard I should keep it hush hush.. But it now goes to show the power of the next few years... (I may or may not heard the 2011 show.. all I can say is.. WOW.. Really? WOW) Good luck bud.

Just a side information, our youngest member just graduated the 8th grade before move ins.... We have quite a few members this year that are vets that are still in high school. but the AVERAGE age, im not sure. i was 19 so yeah :)

so far so good!

I'd say your daughter is used to shows that tell a story so that's what she likes. Being from BITD I just like to listen to the music and watch the drill (if it isn't a stand still) without worrying about a underlying plot to everything. Either way 's cool.... Important thing is she's interested in DC. Can't wait for the DCA/Alumni-type comments since that's my area....

How about Faber College (the band that marched into the wall in the movie Animal House)

As a UNT alum, I say without bias: UNT. Seriously, the drumline is essentially Paul Rennick's personal drumline that follows him around everywhere.

Why so slow on the announcements?!

Im thinking (hoping) the 2011 Cinderella story will emerge from Open Class.

Because you've never been able to demonstrate, in any way, that he doesn't. You've just thrown out conjecture about a corps and corps director who have, frankly, a stellar reputation for keeping their financial ducks in a row compared to a lot of other organizations. Quite frankly, it seems like you're arguing just to hear yourself argue.

a) By your logic then, DCI should forbid any corps from national touring that does not have a for-profit arm? How long do you think it would be before we're sitting in the stands waiting for a show that never happens? c) Surf is a part-time-touring corps. Would you suppose they should go inactive for any year that they don't have "money in the bank" at the beginning of the season? How would that affect recruitment and maintenance of vets? d) You continually go back to this notion that "all" or even "many" members will march for free? Isn't it possible that only a few will march on cut-rate fees and, even then, not for the whole season? Why must it be either/or in your rationale? e) We agree here. Local and regional tours leading up to finals elimination in August would be less of a financial burden on all corps. f) This is just a pipe-dream. As I eluded to before, if Star's were a workable model then at least all of the "Top" corps would have for-profit arms...Oh Wait! They do! Cadets, BD, and Crown (whom I admire for their contributions to the activity) each have for-profit arms and were the first in line to cry poverty and to expect more payout from DCI to survive. These are million-dollar operations and, yet, they run close to the vest each and every year. How's that Star model go again? Oh yes, they had one rich and generous dude who poured money in and cringed as he stared into the drum corps financial abyss. g) Yes, Star's model was a sight to behold. Too bad that there aren't 23 or 46 billionaires willing to do good by starting and financing corps. But that's just the reality. Now what? They fold because they don't have for-profit arms AND rich donors?

and since you know so much, why aren't you offering your services to DCI and or the corps themselves? yes we all talk on here. But the man himself came out here and pretty much gave the low down. Others with ties, or those who have bothered to ask how it works and get info have told you how it goes....yet you still claim they are setting themselves up for failure. so a question: Say Surf comes out with 140 and makes semis because of this plan. Will you come out here and admit you were wrong?

It's parity, friend. Agreed, a spunky upstart stirring the competitive pot is always refreshing. It's fun to root for an underdog, whether it be a new finalist, an old favorite returning to their former glory or an up-and-comer breaking into the upper tier - and kudos to the groups who provide us those thrills. But why is it necessary to add this ominous coda: ...with the sinister implication that the top corps are evildoers, bent on excluding all others in order to keep the competitive riches to themselves. The upper tier is open to anyone with the wherewithal to weather the climb. Cadets, Star in their heyday, Crown, Bluecoats, were all new kids in town at one time. C'mon, cut it out with that if-the-G8-keep-getting-their-way conspiracy theory baloney. Should the upper tier corps be required to purposely go in the tank, perhaps on some kind of rotating basis, so we can have an annual feel-good story? DCI could make a slick video production and include it on the DVDs as a bonus feature, with Steve Rondinaro or Ryan Seacrest narrating. The achievement of excellence is the Holy Grail of our activity - the essence, the benchmark to which everyone aspires. Stop making is sound like it's some kind of a conspiratorial offense to field a consistently strong team. Peace - no personal disrespect intended or implied, Fred O.

1978 Spirit of Atlanta. Started the season pretty much an unknown entity, having finished in 23rd place our first year. Finished the season coming in 8th place in prelims in Boulder, then jumped two spots on Saturday night to finish up in 6th place. And Jim Ott's horn line missed taking home the high brass trophy, which is now named in Jim's honor, by .05 point.

Sunrisers aren't part of the show.... And Walt Kelly is no longer with us. But I know someone who JUST got some of the feathers this past weekend..... and the guy who delivered will also be there....

I've told this true story here before. Apologies to those for whom it's repetition. I happened to be wearing a Carolina Crown shirt on my first-ever visit to Hooters. I know now how that explains why the best-looking waitress in the place came immediately to my table and said: Hi. Do you like drum corps? At the time, I didn't remember what I was wearing. All I remember was thinking to myself: Thank you, God. I mean, how was it possible that this lovely young lady just happens to walk up to me and ask about drum corps? Even if you concede I'm good looking, I was nonetheless a couple of decades older than her. And this just doesn't happen! Sexy? Drum corps! She explains that she used to march Jersey Surf. She still loves drum corps and had seen Crown that year (the Triple Crown year). My lunch was among the best I'd ever had. The wings were okay. The conversation, like the view, was heavenly. HH

Don't worry. Me too. :) I think it epitomizes so much of what Crown does well.

I KNOW I am in a vast minority, but I love Copland and would love to hear more of it from Crown's hornline I'll wait a few years I guess.

The 1971 World Open, at acoustically magnificent Manning Bowl, remains the best show, top to bottom, I've ever seen. Everybody performed at their peak. The 1970 World open, at the same venue is my all time Show #2. This'll be a real treat and, I hope, an education for more recent followers of the activity.

Is everyone in the corps wearing the same thing? Then it's a uniform. Hence the word, uniform. Doesn't matter if it's an Adidas track-suit for a Russian Mob field show. The fact that it has diverged from its military roots is irrelevant.

Crossmen are going to be so unbelievably tight this year, it makes me sick to have to wait to see them on tour and see the show! They're bringing back "the good stuff" this year

I wonder if any corps has managed to get there placements in the same order as Fibonacci Sequence! Get all DeVinci code on these predictions!