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2003 Spin Cycle- The most difficult marching show in drum corps history. I was mesmerized. I even wrote the marching staff to tell them how much I appreciated the show. They should have won on content alone. My favorite Cavaliers show of all time. More later, I'm spending more time here than working.

Let's try to leave politics out of this.

You did hear that in your head before you posted, right? 😂

Absolutely true. When I marched 27, I cobbled my soprano together from pieces of three old sops. It worked just fine (for an Olds Ultratone). Horns occasionally were casualties of the 27 colorguard. 😂

Two women were on contra in 1978 in Guardsmen.

Just thinking Westshoremen had female baris starting 1976 or 1977 and female contra starting 1978 or 1979 (years running together). Erie Thunderbirds had female snare ca 1976/77.

yes

Just for clarity, DCI is a separate 501c3 from each and all corps. It actually is an independent organization from each of the individual drum corps. That the org's board is made up of corps reps doesn't mean they mix 990's.

George Hopkins was a legend in this activity and if he is not rightfully reinstated by the beginning of the season then I'm never buying another ticket again

Cadets pioneered a new era with such drill moments. It was a big risk, then. Maybe they can shake up the activity's currently (imho) stale visual model with something totally new that the fans will love.

I had welds all over that Olds French Horn.

I played a stubby not a longie 😂

Was that a French Horn or a club? 😂

They’re tough. I wasn’t holding up anything heavier than That French Horn.

And there was at least one female contra in all the corps I marched in. Granted, the same female contra marched in three of my corps, but it still counts!

When I marched in Guardsmen, we were everywhere. Percussion, too. A woman on snare.

Back when I marched in the mid to late seventies, every hornline I marched in was coed.

I played French Horn in Norwood Park in 1972. I was the only woman that year. The next year, there were several women. Somebody had to do it.

And their fine 1973 hornline (one of the best in DCI) had 23 females, out of 6o total.

There is no question about that. And the brass instructor was the incomparable Sandra Opie. It was 1976 when Gail (DeAngelis) Balls (former ND-ette) and Rene( Myers) Delucia (Edison Saints alumna) broke through the brass ceiling at Garfield. Both rocked lead soprano. Rene transitioned to the rifle line during the winter. She was a star there, too. Meanwhile, Bonnie Ott had been tearing it up on the left coast with the Commodores, then the Blue Devils. The godmother of them all was a soloist and instructor for the Sunrisers, 'way back in the late '50's, Lil Lindy, who went on to teach hundreds of kids in local corps on Long Island. These women were the pioneers, the exceptions during their performing careers, much like Cherokee Merino, the outstanding snare drummer from the ND-ettes who became Eric Perriloux's student, and cracked the boys club in the battery of St. Rita's Brassmen. They, and their sisters, are the primary reason no one is surprised to see young women in horn and drum lines these days. I'm sure it put a smile on their faces when Carol O'Brien became the first woman member of the US Marine Corps Drum Corps, the Commandant's own.

The best hornline in the country in 1971, the Argonne Rebels, had a coed hornline.

ScoJo marched next to me.

I feel like the battery was slower to adapt and accept females, but there a few great examples. Kelly Houpt from the '82 BD snare line and I believe Carla Azar marched in '84 in the snare line. I met Kelly in 2005 when I started marching again with Corpsvets (CV) and she was with Renegades. Fantastic lady with amazing talent. The battery is still largely male dominated but it certainly isn't due to a gap in ability. The MM's now in all sections see, to come out of the womb with amazing skill sets and drive.

We also have these crazy things called cell phones. Drum corps members no longer line up at Telephone booths. Don't you hate that the price of a call went from a dime to a quarter? Just messing with ya. I marched in the '70s too! The change was gradual. I remember each year more girls were joining the brass and percussion lines. I thought, Boy, They must have chops! They did. By the late '80s early '90s, it was commonplace. You'll notice more women soloist too. Even Carolina Crown who have had some of the best brass lines in recent drum corps history featured an all-female brass segment in their show in 2018. But then again, I marched in Canada ( Etobicoke Oakland Crusaders) in the '70s. We were ahead of the curve when it came to female brass players.

This is a very hard post to follow, Stu. Now I'm not sure I understand your point. DCI as we know it was formed to oversee, manage, and control THE TOUR only. Not the activity, not the corps, not the Friends program. Simply, the tour. DCI IS separate from them with just a board consisting of corps REPRESENTATIVES (not "directors"). It IS an independent body. There's no subjective "in essence" about it: DCI's actions are governed by the reps from its member corps. I'll let others educate about the NCAA if it's an apt comparison.

All co-ops, non-profits, etc should have indemnify protections which insulate the members who are acting on their own accord and not acting for the organization from any bad action by the organization or other members; and indemnify protections should also exist to insulate the organization from the actions of members.

Michael Townsend, Andy Toth, Mike Tarr, Alan Miller.. I'm sure there's a bunch more.

Hmm. This one broke down rather oddly for me... 1980- Loved Santa Esmerelda BITD, and 'Softly As I Leave You' is a marvelous traditional closer, even without the 'step'. 1985- When the Cavies did this show.... I watched... and realized Steve Brubaker was creating another evolution of Visual vocabulary that was cool, accessible, and exciting. Also, that the Cavies Horns and Percussion were pushing themselves forward in a Quantum way. 1986- Starting to use Cornerstone Wind band works that were set wonderfully. Canzona- TASTY. 1987- Soft Spot in my heart for Claude Smith. Lovely, lovely man. And the closer... the drill and music... some serious stuff there. 1988- Took the Firebird and raised it to a new level in the activity. 1989- Who'd have thunk Rutter would work on the field. This show was white hot plasma from the get-go. And the drill, brilliant and elegant. 1990-Soft Spot for the Nelson, and "Bridegroom"... gets to yah. 1991- When they did the Barber at East I was in tears. And O Be Joyful in the Lord... the total package... POW! Yeah crazy I went 7 seasons in a row... 2002- Frameworks is Iconic. Moments where you sit and think, WOW, then they TOP that. 2006- Similar in that WOW! factor to Frameworks, but also the wry humor injected here and there makes the show special. 2008- This show speaks deeply to me. It may be my favorite out of the lot. When I saw this show for the first time... and still... I never want it to end. Just to keep going. 2018- Something here... maybe the feeling that the Cavies have figured out the essence of who they are again and create a program that hits all the buttons in today's environment.

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you do realize the schools are represented in the rules making committees right? http://www.ncaa.org/governance/committees http://www.ncaa.org/governance/committees/committee-vacancies it's not like Emmert sits there and decides on a whim to make up rules. Kinda like Dan doesn't sit there and just make up rules for DCI. facts...just a point and click away

the original post may be a bannable offense

We are closing this for now

Don't let the corps hit you in the fanny on the way out.

You woulda beat my ### and made finals. You also would have done the southern swing in August with us and Kilties.

Actually 1963 was the 1st year they played it. It was put in sometime during the year. I have a recording of the 1963 VFW nationals which was in Seattle, WA. Note that DCXmuseum is not 100% accurate with a few of the very early years. Corps during those years often made changes during the year. A good example would be Madison Scouts 1976 and their infamous Theme from "Shaft" Show. Their scores early in the year were horrible even though they had the same membership when they won in 1975. So during the season they switched music and re-wrote almost the entire drill. They finished 2nd in 1976 and there are many that think if they'd another week to clean the show they could have also won in 1976. The DCXMuseum database only reports their end of season Rep.

What, no love for 79? We were just happy to back in finals.

Fred, I woud switch your #4 with 1985 and your #7 with 1984 and we would be good. I might even tie for 12th with 1982 and 2018, because I see them both as a start of a new era. Love ya, man! You better get your butt to a few home shows this summer... wine tasting in April? I want to see you!

I’m curious, how many women on their design team? Are there any female caption heads?

i pay annually cause i watch the WGI stuff too, and if life allows, BOA finals