skevinp Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, JimF-LowBari said: Morlocks... really creepy when they rotted at high speed.... Knew a guy for years with a name close to Morlock. Can’t remember now, all I come up with is Morlock... ugh I love the scene where the Eloi guy looks at his hand and curves it into a fist and realizes he can fight back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyDad Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, skevinp said: I love the scene where the Eloi guy looks at his hand and curves it into a fist and realizes he can fight back. Just like George McFly right before he punched Biff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyDad Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Said it before, saying it again - there’s more we don’t know about this Covid than we do know. I understand in today’s environment of instant access to information we feel we should be able to know all the answers Right Now! Well, unfortunately, that’s not how it works when you’re trying to solve a new problem. And it’s why I would like to see a toning down of the prevailing moral outrage when reading an opinion you don’t agree with. Personally, I don’t see protecting the health of the population and reopening the country as two mutually exclusive concepts. It will happen at some point. So why not discuss it and how we can do it reasonably and safely? I’m for reasonable assurance of adequate protection. If you are for absolute assurance of perfect protection, then that helps me understand that we’re coming from different approaches. That’s okay. I would like to discuss. I would not like to throw insults or clever jabs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, HockeyDad said: Yeah that’s it. And yup. Still gives me the creeps. You are right. The original gave me the creeps. The remake left me so much less impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, skevinp said: I love the scene where the Eloi guy looks at his hand and curves it into a fist and realizes he can fight back. Edited April 13, 2020 by Continental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 56 minutes ago, skevinp said: I love the scene where the Eloi guy looks at his hand and curves it into a fist and realizes he can fight back. Kind of like beginning of 2001. Ape gets POed and looks at the bone(?) like “wait a minute” and then WHAP hits other guy in the head.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
year1buick Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Guitar1974 said: Yes, this (above). The data everybody is using to base their decisions on is extremely flawed. Only a tiny fraction of the actual cases are reported due to the severe lack of tests. Add to that most people being tested are ones that show fairly severe symptoms of COVID. This leads to an extreme understatement in the actual infection rate and overstatement in the true mortality rate. We count every death (most have severe underlying conditions) but only a tiny fraction of the cases. This has led to the extreme overreaction we are in now. Nobody will actually admit they were way off in the estimation of the lethality of COVID and when the data shows the fatality rate far, far below what was originally stated you will be told it is due to social distancing and lockdown. This is incorrect. We are still funneling into the grocery store, Wal-Mart, and Target. You are still being exposed. It is just way less dangerous than you were told. I'm sure lots of you will disagree, and that is fine. Pay attention to the data in the coming weeks. Those are still guesses—in absence of actual data. Hunches. [Please correct me if I’m wrong on this, but I haven’t seen anyone link an actual study, with tangible data, to statements like these. I’m not saying there aren’t, I just don’t recall them being backed up. From either end of the viewpoint spectrum.] You say we don’t have all the facts, but then state that, when we do... it’s going to be this. Without all the facts, how do you know? I honestly don’t understand. What you call an overreaction, some call preventing disaster. Who’s right? I don’t know. But my hunch is it’s probably somewhere in between. We want to have certainty; to break things down into binary equations: good/bad, safe/overreacting, in danger/in the clear, us/them. But life doesn’t work that way. It’s messy, often without clear cut yes/no answers. I honestly have no idea what the landscape of this country is going to look like in twelve months. I hope for better, including having a DCI season for all of us to enjoy. But I think there are going to be ramifications and changes. The question is, how significant? I think it’s an interesting question and am still curious as to what others here think about it. Edited April 13, 2020 by year1buick wonky formatting 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 Agree with Buick.. hey I have an interest in old cars so will say Buick. To me there are so many unknowns and never seen befores that it makes sense that projections will be off and all over the place. What bothers me is seeing people upset that we might have fewer cases/deaths than before like people making the projections were clueless. Really hard to make projections when some areas are doing in place a lot better than others. For me just checking around my area for now and see where this all leads. And preparing myself for anything. Including no or modified DC for 2021 including that Alumni type down the road from me. And I don’t get the freak out about all cases not counted because people didn’t realize they had it or didn’t die in a hospital to be checked. That’s with any flu that goes around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar1974 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said: Agree with Buick.. hey I have an interest in old cars so will say Buick. To me there are so many unknowns and never seen befores that it makes sense that projections will be off and all over the place. What bothers me is seeing people upset that we might have fewer cases/deaths than before like people making the projections were clueless. Really hard to make projections when some areas are doing in place a lot better than others. For me just checking around my area for now and see where this all leads. And preparing myself for anything. Including no or modified DC for 2021 including that Alumni type down the road from me. And I don’t get the freak out about all cases not counted because people didn’t realize they had it or didn’t die in a hospital to be checked. That’s with any flu that goes around. Fair enough. My point about the case count is that we've made decisions that are going to have long lasting ramifications based on very shaky data. I hope the infection fatality rate is extremely low, that'd be the best scenario. I just hope the data shows this soon so we can get back to life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.E. Brigand Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Oh dear me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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