flammaster Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 1. SCV 2. BD 3. Crown 4. Cadets 5. Madison 6. Phantom 7. Blue Coats 8. Boston 9. Cavies 10. Blue Knights 11. Spirit 12. Troopers I would love to see that placement except I think Blue Stars would take the place of Troopers (maybe) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.E. Brigand Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) Nothing ventured, nothing gained. But first, two explanations: (I) For Blue Devils, the seven years from 2007 through 2013 represent their longest run ever placing at first or second. (They had six such years from 1979 to 1984.) So they are overdue for a (small) slip. Accordingly I'll put them in third--and I'll probably love their show. I just re-watched their previous third-place show, from 2006, and man, was that ever a good one. (II) 2013 marks eleven years without a tie in (World Class) Finals, since Boston Crusaders and Phantom Regiment tied for fifth in 2002. This is the longest such period since DCI was founded, I believe; the previous stretch seems to have been the nine tieless years between 1977, when Freelancers and Seneca Optimists tied for eighth, and 1987, when Star of Indiana and Velvet Knights tied for seventh. (I think there have been ten Finals ties in DCI's history.) Accordingly I'll put a tie in third, a position which has never had one before. (I haven't checked the history of Prelims or Semis ties for final position [e.g., for 13th place or lower in Semis] or ties in Open Class. There would have been a World Class Semifinals tie last year between Academy and Vanguard Cadets, but the latter was penalized half a point for practicing in the wrong place.) That's right: I say one of those streaks ends this year--and to cover my bases, I'm predicting both, and in the same place. 1. Carolina Crown 2. Santa Clara Vanguard 3. Blue Devils (tie) 3. Bluecoats (tie) 5. Cadets 6. Cavaliers 7. Madison Scouts 8. Phantom Regiment 9. Boston Crusaders 10. Troopers 11. Blue Stars 12. Blue Knights 13. Spirit of Atlanta 14. Crossmen 15. Oregon Crusaders 16. Mandarins 17. Colts 18. Academy 19. Pacific Crest 20. Cascades [21st] 21. Jersey Surf [23rd] 22. Pioneer [26th] 1. Genesis [20th] 2. Blue Devils B [22nd] 3. Music City [24th] 4. Vanguard Cadets [25th] 5. Spartans [27th] 6. Legends [29th] 7. Gold [28th] 8. 7th Regiment [30th] 9. Raiders [31st] 10. Colt Cadets [32nd] 11. Thunder [33rd] 12. Stentors [34th] 13. Coastal Surge [35th] 14. Racine Scouts [36th] 15. Blue Saints [37th] (16.) Columbians (17.) Impulse (18.) Incognito (19.) Eruption (20.) City Sound (21.) Guardians (22.) Golden Empire (23.) Watchmen (24.) Blue Devils C (25.) Spirit of Newark Numbers in square brackets represent positions when World Class and Open Class are combined. The final ten Open Class corps listed with ranks in parentheses aren't expected to appear at O.C. championships, so they're ordered by predicted last score, adjusted by date (as on hostrauser's regular weekly summaries, presuming he does that again)--if they even all appear in Open Class competition at all: for the new groups, it depends on audition turnout and DCI approval, and some may be appearing only in exhibition, as Coastal Surge did last year. I hope I didn't forget anyone, or, contrarily, include a corps who's actually intending to appear in SoundSport rather than Open Class. Finally, based on a recent re-viewing of Tampa Bay Thunder's DCA Prelims performance last year, I would have predicted that group to make Open Class Finals. It's a shame to hear they won't be touring. As always, I predict that I will be wrong! Edited January 28, 2014 by N.E. Brigand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 " Scouts in 13th? As much as I love my Troopers/Spirit/Crossmen, I really can't see Madison that low. Edit: Crown, Cadets, and Bloo I'll take.[/quote I think that if there was a good chance of Scouts moving up from the 9th or 10th zone it was going to happen in 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibexpercussion Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Would be interesting to see Madison in 5th again though... This may be the show that can do it for them. Not saying it will, but so far the indications are that it definitely has the potential! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaDevil Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 My vote goes to the Boston Crusaders for the most improved Corps during the course of the 2013 summer season. They finished 6th out of 6 Corps on June 22nd ( behind Spirit, and more than a couple of points behind Cavaliers ) and were ranked 14th the first week on DCP Rankings. They trailed Cavs, Madison, BK, for much of the season. But they wound up 8th, just a mere tenth behind the Cavaliers at Finals for 7th. They really came on strong to finish their season well and breaking into the 90's. As for the most improved Corps year over end ( 2013 from 2012 ), that honor seems to go to The Troopers, imo. In an age when its difficult to move up more than 2 placement positions from one year to the next, The Troopers went from 18th in 2013 to 13th in 2012, and came within less than 2 tenths of shocking the Blue Stars in the Semi's and edging them for that coveted Finalist spot. Their Semi's performance was " on ", and almost became the shocker of Championship week, imo. Have to agree that Boston did improve a tremendous amount as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbones7480 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Crossmen guard = top 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TboneBtonegirl Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I think it could be one of the most interesting years in drum corps. Every year the 10-17 spots get more exciting, and the newest World Class and top Open Class corps have really improved over the last few years. My guesses for 2014 1. Blue Devils 2. Tie Cadets and Santa Clara Vanguard 4. Carolina Crown 5. Cavaliers 6. Boston Crusaders 7. Phantom Regiment 8. Madison Scouts 9. Bluecoats 10. Blue Knights 11. Blue Stars 12. Spirit Of Atlanta Semis 13. Colts 14 Pacific Crest 15. Crossmen 16. Academy 17. Blue Devils B 18. Troopers 19. Vanguard Cadets 20. Oregon Crusaders 21. Mandarins 22. Jersey Surf 23. Genesis 24. Spartans 25. Cascades Crown in 4th?? And my God are you serious about the bluecoats being in 9th????? You clearly haven't heard their source music for this year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.E. Brigand Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I think it could be one of the most interesting years in drum corps. Crown in 4th?? And my God are you serious about the bluecoats being in 9th????? You clearly haven't heard their source music for this year! Crown's average position over the past ten years is 4.5, so it could be argued that 4th is the safe bet. On the other hand, Bluecoats' average position over the past ten years is 5.3, so 9th is indeed a riskier guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsband Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Crown's average position over the past ten years is 4.5, so it could be argued that 4th is the safe bet. On the other hand, Bluecoats' average position over the past ten years is 5.3, so 9th is indeed a riskier guess. Of course choosing a 10 year average is an "interesting" choice considering Crown's 10 year trend... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nederland Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 So at this rate they should place zero or negative one this year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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