If Current DCI Model Gets Cut Back...

[MikeD]

1 hour ago, GUARDLING said:

Like with most things...Including our activity ..One has to wonder what we are NOT being told, and be very wide eyed as to who the messenger is.

There are cities now saying if anyone is out period without a mask they could or will be fined up to $500.00 . I actually heard this on TV today and they seemed quite serious.

Here in NJ, it is mandated to wear a mask if you go into a store or restaurant (for pickup). So far I have not of a fine.

[GUARDLING]

Just now, MikeD said:

Here in NJ, it is mandated to wear a mask if you go into a store or restaurant (for pickup). So far I have not of a fine.

what I saw this morning was just not in a store but outside anywhere. Makes one wonder

[JimF-LowBari]

48 minutes ago, Ghost said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/passenger-kicked-off-bus-in-philadelphia-for-not-wearing-face-covering/vi-BB12ue1y

 

 

PA 21,655 cases... Philadelphia 6022 (worst in the state). Weird part is Philly was named as one of the future hot spots????
 

Article I read was bus driver told guy to leave and he refused. Cops told him to leave and he refused. He was violating the bus companies (SEPTA) policy. Vid shows him struggling with cops as they literally carry him out. Sure PA will be known as the Police State but I only see a future Darwin Award winner. 
 

Apply to topic: what if DCI try’s to have a tour and some places still have mask, no outsiders or other mandates in place

Edited April 12, 2020 by JimF-LowBari

[LabMaster]

2 hours ago, HockeyDad said:

With one big exception - because of the war, the WAS a lot of travel. Almost a perfect storm, sadly. 

Maybe for soldiers globally.  But the lack of personal automobiles, good roads, proliferation of air travel, high speed rail  and cruise ship industry, would limit the global travel we see today.  So for the everyday person and businesses in general,  there WAS NOT a lot of travel.

[Ghost]

3 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said:

 Apply to topic: what if DCI try’s to have a tour and some places still have mask, no outsiders or other mandates in place

As long as DCI knows that months ahead of time, should be no problem.  If a corps has to drive through that city, just pull over the caravan, have everybody step out side, and brush the dust off their clothing.  (Well, it is Holy Week.)

[JimF-LowBari]

2 minutes ago, Ghost said:

As long as DCI knows that months ahead of time, should be no problem.  If a corps has to drive through that city, just pull over the caravan, have everybody step out side, and brush the dust off their clothing.  (Well, it is Holy Week.)

Kick dust off their sandals? 😛

And googling appears PA mask deal is a recommendation and not an order (latest bit I found). Will give Gov Wolf credit for jumping on things quick. Problem is sometimes the details are fuzzy as not worked out until later. For example he was quick to close non-essential businesses... but definition of non-essential wasn’t totally worked out until afterwards 

[Ghost]

15 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said:

Kick dust off their sandals? 😛 

Haven't read/listened to the passage in awhile, but you're right about feet/sandals instead of clothing.

"And in whatsoever place ye shall enter, and they receive you not, in my name ye shall leave a cursing instead of a blessing, by casting off the dust of your feet against them as a testimony, and cleansing your feet by the wayside."

[N.E. Brigand]

5 hours ago, JimF-LowBari said:

Meanwhile PA's projected peak was just put off for another week. That was good news that only lasted 2 days. Last I checked we are the state placing 6th in most cases and 5th in increase in percentage of cases over last week. So I hear the projections and hope the better ones come to pass but not pinning any hopes for now

A later peak could be a good thing if it means the overall impact is being stretched out over more time.

[JimF-LowBari]

13 minutes ago, N.E. Brigand said:

A later peak could be a good thing if it means the overall impact is being stretched out over more time.

Understand that and statewide we are holding our own with number of available beds, ICU beds and ventilators. But this is statewide and have not seen numbers in badly hit SE (Philly). Peak was postponed from next week to following week but like all predictions we have to wait to see how accurate.

Edited April 12, 2020 by JimF-LowBari

[Cappybara]

On 4/10/2020 at 6:39 PM, N.E. Brigand said:

Life won't be back to normal until 2022.

That doesn't mean it will be the way it is now for two years, but until there's a vaccine --fall 2021 at the earliest, by most estimates-- it will not be safe to gather in large groups.

However, it can be made much safer than it is with robust regular testing and quick containment efforts.

That means probably 1 million Americans being tested every day. (We're currently doing about 10% of that.) Not just people who are sick, but random people everywhere.

And you get your temperature taken every time you try to enter a building, and if it shows you have a fever, you don't go in (unless it's your home).

And if you test positive, your state government isolates you in a quarantine facility until you test negative (treating you if you develop symptoms), and anyone you've had contact with in the past two weeks gets put in a hotel room until two weeks have passed since they interacted with you.

The epidemiologists probably do the contact tracing via some sort of app on your phone that gives them a good record of every other phone (and its owner) you've been close to. It's going to be weird and seriously intrusive. But it's the only possible alternative to staying locked down until there's a vaccine. If these steps don't happen, we get New York levels of infection all over again, but in lots of places.

(Read about what's going to be necessary here: Getting Down to Planning the Next Year and the Interim New Normal.)

A minor quirk: you'll be expected to wear a mask every time you're in a crowded place. (Also handshaking likely is going to become a thing of the past.)

And every time there's a flare-up in a community, that area goes back into lock-down mode for a few weeks. But hopefully the steps above keep that to a minimum.

One other thing that would help: antiviral and therapeutic drugs.

Even with all that happening, probably 20% of the population is going to be nervous and will stay home as much as possible.

Plus obviously this means the economy continues to be shaky.

One positive from this: the number of people contracting all infectious diseases, including colds and flus, will drop.

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So assuming we can vastly increase our testing capacity and put the other necessary procedures in place:

--People aren't going to have as much money to spend on entertainment. And a number of them won't want to be in crowds. This will apply to members, too (the specific subject you're inquiring about).

--Some event locations might suddenly be under shelter-in-place orders in the middle of DCI's tour, meaning shows are cancelled. Imagine if it happens in Indianapolis in August.

--An entire corps might suddenly be quarantined for two weeks when one of their members falls ill.

For these and other reasons, it's likely some corps will fold.

 

Best post in this thread. The people who are taking this situation lightly or are clamoring for businesses to open back up in the coming weeks are naive fools.