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I want to point out that this is at least the third post in which you suggest that the moderators here have ignored your requests for an explanation as to why your posts and threads were removed. Not only is this not true (for one thing, if you read the board guidelines it would be pretty clear why), but they did in fact explain to you why your post was moved to member services, and why the other posts were removed. Maybe they didn't respond as quickly as you would have liked, but they did in fact respond. The fact is, they don't have to explain anything to anyone. While this is a public board in that anyone can read or post, the board is owned by whatever private entity that runs it. They can allow, or disallow whatever they please, and can delete at will. Freedom of speech does not exist within a privately owned forum, so please stop posting threads or posts that imply that there is censorship going on. As for Teal Sound, I can certainly see why some people are concerned. I can also see why others might rush to the organization's defense. Nobody here really knows the entire story behind the hire. Nobody knows the entire story behind what the new hire did or didn't do. Nobody knows for sure what said administrator will or won't do in the future. The other thing to think about is his new role in the organization. According to the announcement, he will be "Program Facilitator", trusted with the hiring of staff, and programing the design of the show. Nowhere does it mention working with students. We all have our concerns about the move. But lets not crucify the entire organization just yet. If you don't feel comfortable allowing your child to march there, then don't. I don't think anyone here would tell you otherwise. If you feel strongly enough, email the corps. Perhaps they would be willing to share their thought process behind the hire with you. I am in no way defending Moody, or those who would take advantage of their influence over their students. I am simply suggesting that there is likely more to this story than any of us know about. Now, feel free to drive up my red negative number simply because you disagree with what I have to say.

I'm a big believer in second (and third, fourth, fifth, whatever) chances and learning from your mistakes. But when you're in education this is the one thing you don't get a second chance on. Regardless of whether or not what you did is illegal. Take your second chance in another field. You're done working with kids. And no, it doesn't matter if he doesn't work with the members all that much . . . he wouldn't (and shouldn't) get a job in school administration either. And since corps really, really, really want to be seen as educational organizations they need to hold all their employees to that same ethical standard. Yeah, this happens a lot. Yes, it's even happened recently. Does that mean this should be brushed off as no big deal, just because it has been before? Especially when the corps doing the hiring has the unbelievable stupidity to put it in a press release.

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The absolute greatest, most awesome, spectacular, spine-tingling best sound I've heard in any stadium anywhere. Even when the corps on the field is playing softly, one is enveloped by a glorious sonic blanket of sonorous brass. It doesn't even matter than one can see drums warming up behind the stadium...once the corps inside the stadium is playing, it's like having headphones on. Everyone within a few hours drive deserves to hear drum corps in this venue.

Wow! You know, you have some great points and are obviously very passionate about this topic. I also care about the children and do not want to see any harm come to them, or anyone. I'm just not willing to go on a witch hunt and sensationalize this whole thing without having knowledge about what happened. It's coming across as fear mongering. This is a common theme in the world today, too, and is another problem with society It seems... You've mentioned several things here that I have not read in any online article. Who knows what's REALLY going on or went on here? We must also be careful about ruining the life of this person. I subscribe to the Blackstone's formulation: "better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer". What we have in this case is too much, "I don't know" for me. Yes, at its worst, what has been described by a few here is terribly bad. Noone here is going to have the authority to really get to the truth or the facts, so all we have is gossip, libel, defamation, slander, and vilification. Hooray! Can we please talk about drum corps now? Thanks! P.S. I don't know any of the parties involved. I just HATE gossip that usually turns out to be grossly inaccurate in the end after all the damage has been done. If all of this is true, then I don't think Teal should have gone with this individual. I just don't know about trusting the data.

Oh, Hoi! IS this where we talk about waffles?

October 9, 2011 Syracuse, NY The Brigadiers Music Association is pleased to officially announce that the corps will be returning to the competitive field for the 2012 season!!! Under the direction of Ryan Benz, the Brigs have begun design meetings and are close to finalizing the show which will be announced in the coming weeks! The first camp of the 2012 season will be the weekend of December 10th and 11th in the Syracuse area. If interested in joining the 2012 Brigadiers, visit us at www.brigadiers.com and fill out the "Join The Brigadiers" form today! Also, check out the great article in the October issue of Drum Corps World about the corps' anticipated return!! (http://www.high-velocity-media.com/Magazines/oct_2011/oct_2011.php) Once a Brig, Always a Brig...

Close, but you forgot the most important step. 1. Administration 2. Design staff 3. Instructional staff 4. Members But all four must work hand in hand to see it all come together. When you have 1, 2, and 3, you will attract a higher level of 4.

This is true, but the situation is still 1) EXTREMELY poor judgement on the teacher's part. The teacher admitted writing sexually suggestive text message to a student that he was teaching/supervising/evaluating. In ANY case, this is extremely poor judgement that could at the very least cast doubt at the legitimacy of the teacher doing their job, and could very easily lead to the stipulation that the teacher was indulging in their sexual attraction of a student to exact favor. 2) morally reprehensible, as you suggest. He was in a position of authority and took advantage of a student under his charge: a student who was 13 years his junior (not "just" five, though IMO that is just as wrong). Putting that type of pressure on a student is wrong, and the damage he might've done to her psyche may far outlast his career as an educator. When you factor in this statement from the article, made by a student, the implication is that the teacher coerced the student into not telling anyone.As others have said, I have zero problems with second chances. But giving someone who took advantage of his student a second change in a youth-oriented industry , even in a non-teaching roll, reeks of bad judgement on Teal Sound's part that is dumbfounding. The only thing I can think of is that Moody is friends with someone on Teal Sound's management who wanted to give a friend a second chance. This, in turn, strikes me as Teal Sound's management making poor decisions based not on what's best for the organization but what's best for friendships or something. Either way, this is publicity Teal Sound shouldn't be seeking, and could've very easily avoided. If the corps management makes a decision this poor in one area, it's not out of line to stipulate they make poor decisions elsewhere...

Scouts also Picked up Adam Dalton who teaches Carolina Crown colorguard.. Scouts should make a strong showing in 2012.... no matter what!!!!

Adam Sage does a fantastic 1st season with any colorguard... I hope he is hired to clean. Jim Moore IS THE BEST in the guard business... As long as JIM MOORE is running the ship, we are fine. Adam does a great job as "back up" Jim Moore is the best when it comes to design.. I think this will be amazing... Only becaue ADAM has JIM as the writer. I give adam two years,,, to get us in the top 5 guards... if not... Ax him.

It is as equally deplorable in ALL other circumstances. You CAN learn from mistakes...FAR FAR FAR away from children. There is no grey area. There's no second chance. One and done.

Great hire for the Scouts!

Didn't they work together in '09 (9th place) and '10 (6th place)?

The Berry Center, Cypress, (Houston) TX. Gotta love high school football in TX!

I'm glad you did this - I posted a similar poll earlier and it was erased - and the moderator has not responded to several requests on why it was removed. I am completely dumbfounded in the judgement of Teal Sound.

Honestly i never got the hype on this one.

This is great news. Welcome back, Brigs!!!

Now that brass soloists are amplified, it could be really interesting to see a bit of variety on the sounds out there. A concert french horn solo or a trombone solo could add some new colors. I know it is a pain in the ### to haul extra horns around, and messes the embouchure to jump back and forth... but still could be cool. On the topic, I actually really dug Teal Sounds exploration of various instruments. I actually really liked how they are sort of carving our their own identity. It would be interesting to see more risks like this and a stronger sense of identity from corps throughout the range of placement. Mouth harp? Pan-flute? Penny whistle? There is an endless list of things that can be used to add different textures, and more interesting to add some of these with actual instruments, rather than just a sample. Also, it could be interesting to see some more exploration of of eastern and african percussion... tabla could be pretty cool, for example. What other possibilities are out there?

Central Florida's PREMIER Independant "A" Class Indoor Percussion Ensemble is seeking members for the 2012 Season RIPTIDE INDOOR PERCUSSION ENSEMBLE ! A New outlook and Staff will make RIPTIDE 2012 the best yet! Instructional Staff includes: Vic Kulinski - Director/Program Director Lee Hansen - Battery Arranger/Supervisor Justin Robards - Front Ensemble Arranger/Supervisor Ryan Teston - Ensemble Coordinator Mike Daugherty- Snare Technician Landon Baker - Tenor Technician Chris Oliveras - Bass Technician Mike "Nacho" Yanochko - Cymbal Technician Mitchell Beckman - Front Ensemble Technician Trevor Cox - Visual Consultant Allan Mundy - Visual Technician Erick Guzman - Visual Technician Lainey Drummond - Visual Technician/Movement Kip Valinsky - Designer WE ARE COMING TO ORLANDO SATURDAY NOVEMBER 12 from 11:00am to 5:00pm AUDITIONS FOR OPEN BATTERY POSITIONS........................ FREEDOM HIGH SCHOOL .. 2500 Taft-Vineland Rd Orlando Fl There is a ONE TIME audition fee of $20.00, that will be applied to your tuition should you be with the ensemble for the 2012 season! For further information or audition material email : riptidepercussion@ymail.com For 2012 - RIPTIDE has formed an AFFILIATION with the PARADIGM PERFORMANCE ENSEMBLE,Inc. from Ocala Florida and Supported by the Sun Devils Drum & Bugle Corps

Cincinnati Tradition Drum and Bugle Corps would like to announce the 2012 design/instructional team. Program Coordinator – Dr. Larry Tinnerman Brass Caption Head – Mr. Joe Fink Brass Low Brass – Dr. Larry Tinnerman Visual Caption Head and Designer – Mr. Curtis Shreve Visual Tech – Ms. Jennifer Clark Drum Major and Visual Tech – Ms. Cynthia Foltz Guard Caption Head and Designer – Ms. Andrea Meyer Guard Designer - Ms. Christie Johnson Percussion Caption Head – Mr. James Kirby Front Ensemble Lead Instructor – Mr. Victor Blauser Brass Arrangements by: Mr. Donny Allen, Mr. Steve Cooley, Mr. Martin Williams The 2012 Program will consist of an evening with Stan Kenton and included Here's That Rainy Day, Artistry in Rhythm Suite, Send in the Clowns, A Brief Percussion Interlude, Malaga (2012). The corps will have a new look, a new sound and a new attitude for the 2012 season. Membership day and the first camp of the 2012 season will be held November 20, 2011 at Lawrenceburg High School in Lawrenceburg, Indiana from 9:00 am – 6:00 pm. Perspective members are invited to visit the corps site at http://cincinnatitradition.org. Once they register as perspective members, they will be granted access and will be able to download brass parts and listen to actual MIDI recording of the music. Tradition is looking for a few more talented musicians and guard members for the 2012 season. DARE FOR GREATNESS, DARE TO BE TRADITION.

Madison Scouts "The Madison Scouts are pleased to announce that Adam Sage will be leading the color guard caption for 2012 and will be joined by Adam Dalton. Returning for his third season is Jim Moore on design & choreography!"

Great staff also flock to great talent; that is why most OC corps, or lower WC corps, have a difficult time retaining excellent staff.

Once again - a girl after my own heart!

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As of Today, Adam Sage Of Carolina Crown, as well as one other Carolina Crown guars staff member were announced as "added to the Scouts staff" Amazing just how many Carolina Crown staff members are now with Scouts.

Spot on.

It's about as likely now as it was then. Anyway... Funny how you reacted -- they fell all the way to what (looks it up) 4th (one 5th) during that stretch and you're horrified at the prospect :-)

im hoping for Ice CAstles in 2012

I voted no. As an alum of BAC, I am more than happy to hear Conquest at the Spring Fling and various parades and encores throughout the season. With modern, thematic programs, you can't just stick it into the show, unless there is a program where it makes sense. If Madison were to try this with ESOM, they would find themselves owning 15th place, just like BAC did back in the 80's when they played Conquest every year. I was on staff then, so I know of what I speak. I would also add that I think the management, staff and members of Madison are more than capable of topping their 2011 show with material that is new and fresh for 2012. Go Madison!

And for the Rest 1st - Blue Devils 14, runner up Cadets 10 2nd - Blue Devils 8, Runner up Santa Clara Vanguard 7 3rd - Blue Devils & Santa Clara Vanguard 8, Runner up Cavaliers 7 4th - Phantom Regiment 8, runner up Blue Devils 6 5th - Phantom Regiment 7, runner up Madison Scouts 6 6th - Madison Scouts 8, runner up Santa Clara Vanguard 4 7th - Bluecoats 6, runner up Santa Clara Vanguard & Crossmen 5 8th - Crossmen 5, runner up Phantom Regiment, Glassmen, & Blue Stars 4 9th - Blue Knights & Boston Crusaders 6, runner up Crossmen 4 10th - Madison Scouts, Crossmen, Blue Knights, & Carolina Crown 3 11th - Bluecoats & Glassmen 5, runner up Carolina Crown 4 12th - Spirit of Atlanta 6, runner up Colts 5 side note - The Madison Scouts are the only corps to place in all 12 positions at least once.

The Connecticut Hurricanes are looking for a photo of the late marching guru Vinnie Ratford. Vinnie taugh many corps, both JR. & Sr., throughtout his HOF career. The photo is needed to complete the HOF feature on the Hurcs web site. Anyone out there in DCP land who may be willing to help can send a pic to...jamfish2@comcast.net Thanks to all, John Fisher Hurricane Historian

Great.....Thanks!

What Teal Sound has done is indefensible, and reprehensible to add this individual to its staff imo. Its a black eye for this relatively new DCI Corps. Additionally, if Teal Sound can not see fit that they made a collossal mistake in hiring this disgraced individual that engaged in repetitive agressive sexual pursuits of a student in his supervision,engaged in a cover up, and solicited the student to lie to authorties if his actions were made public, then DCI itself needs to step forward and tell Teal Sound in no uncertain terms that Teal Sound needs to remove this individual forthwith. Should Teal Sound decline to take this neccessary step to protect its marchers, then DCI should tell Teal Sound that it is henceforth prohibited from participating in any future DCI sponsored events. Failure to take this neccessary and required action by DCI itself, would be an abrogation of its oversight responsibilities to do everything its it power to prevent an unfortunate incident that it had the capacity to stop in its tracks when this individual's recent aggressive sexual predatory actions led to a resignation. If DCI does not take action, shame on them. It would be an unfortunate black eye to DCI's reputation to not take the required step to prohibit this individual from working with young people on a summer tour. Tahis individual unfortunately forfeited his right to be involved with young people after he engaged in this behaviour and engaged in a lengthy cover up and a notice to the victim to lie to authorities if his aggressive sexual predatory activities became public.

To echo the sentiments of the Great Communicator, this is GREAT news! Another of the old line returns....

Lol is the best contribution you can make to the thread? The predictions you laughed at may not turn out accurate, but they are not unreasonable.

Actually, you don't know that. Jobs very well could have made an enormous amount of charitable donations. All we know is that he didn't do it publicly. Which makes sense, because outside of Apple he was a very private man.

Removed Teal sound from sig. Cannot condone decisions of an organization that can't tell right from wrong, or follow through with its financial obligations.

you might reconsider if you read the G7 proposal

While labeling this child abuse is pushing it, it is most definitely unethical and creepy in the extreme. Since corps have decided they are educational organizations with faculties, students, tuition and whatnot they should themselves and their employees to the same ethical standards that employed by real schools. Think of the damage that could be done to the activity otherwise. I certainly wouldn't want my sister marching at a corps employing this guy or someone like him . . . but imagine the parents who wouldn't let their kids march in any corps, just because one group insists on keeping a creep on board? Yes, this sort of thing is rife in our activity, and gets swept under the rug way too often. But to have a guy outed for it publicly, and then dismiss as "not that big a deal"? Astonishing. Yes, this guy messed up. Yes, he deserves a second chance . . . in some field other than education. When you're entrusted with students this is the one thing that's truly unforgivable, regardless of whether or not it's actually illegal.

Interesting...but incomplete. More than 80% of the Boston Crusaders were "East Coast Kids" in 2011. In fact, I would be willing to bet that more East Coast Kids march BAC than anyone else in the top 12.

A lot of great folks came from the Saints...Al Chez among them. They could indeed play! Tommy Swan taught the Saints for years...a great horn instructor back in the day.

it's funny you say that, because i definitely would NOT repeat any of the things if i was a current member. So your theory on me being considered a "4th part" flies right through the #### window. Second, it seems like you have quite the ego for someone whose corps folded. Don't care why they did, but they still folded. I also remember saying that dci every so often puts out great players. Out of the thousands of kids that have done this activity, only a handful actually got professional playing jobs. On top of that, dci was most certainly not the reason they were able to achieve those high paying jobs. drum corps can only take you so far as an individual player. I love the guys i marched with and wouldn't trade the experience for the world. But you can't make a living off marching band. In the grand scheme of things, nobody really cares about the "drum corps" circles. It's a kids activity. In the end, it's just maching band.

blando bando wannabe

Really loving a piece called Firefly by Ryan George:

Bucs will announce their staff when they have it assembled, and when they are good and ready. That may be today, it may be November. C2 doesn't need to wait for anyone to make their own announcements. Besides, Bucs have never been in the habit of announcing departures, only the staff for the upcoming season.

A good Drum Corps soloist doesn't need to be miced. I've heard some sops who could knock your jock off from 500 yards with a hangover on their worst day.

Here's what may be an odd request...are the colors red/green set in stone? Something like 20% of all males are red/green colorblind, including myself. I can see the difference in the +/-, as they are next to each other and a comparison can be made, but when the rating is by itself (for example, when viewing profiles), it's just a number in a circle. I'm aware that wholesale changes for an individual is exhibiting quite a bit of hubris on my part, and also that for some reason green and red have become universal for stop/go, good/bad, etc., but if it's just changing a number in a line of code, and if there's no other reason than default, maybe a change could be made to blue/red, or black/white, or some other higher contrast scheme? Or...maybe this should have been the first question...is there a high-contrast setting or skin available?