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Every word you write may be true about George's behavior towards alumni, YEA employees and others in the normal course of their daily interactions. Maybe he now regrets his terrible behaviors towards so many people (not just alums). However, that has zero to do with his being a sexual predator against the women who have come forward, including two who were marching members at the time he preyed on them, and the two most recent victims the prosecutor was able to use to charge him in the legal case. The idea that he would put his hand on your leg at dinner when you first met does not show a person who has had much of a change of heart on the predator side of things to me. That was just an exploratory move. His and Kristy's FB profiles both show they have been together since 2015, so he had no business going after you, again IMO.

Yeah he acknowledged he was wrong for stealing a kiss PERIOD. And you are buying it hook line and sinker. So women are baring their souls by talking about the most painful thing in their lives. And willing to testify in court where they could have perjury penalty if found lying. Think about it, multiple people take a chance of throwing their lives away for a corps alumni association? Someone thinks that is the most important thing in the world or it’s a bs line. Worse part of your posts is you ignore what he is really being accused of and refuse to answer direct questions where the answer would make GH look bad. IMO he likes to talk about himself and he found someone willing to listen and buy what he is selling. done until the trial

You told him no, that was a great thing on your part, and I have no reason to doubt you. But again, a real man WITH HONOR will not touch your leg (in the manner and intent in which you described). And please pay close attention here: you are now seeming to defend and justify the behavior. So please, please, please be careful on how you proceed.

Unmarried Real Men with Honor do NOT put their hands on a women's leg as a hint, wink wink, nudge nudge, PERIOD. Geez!!!

oh dear i mentioned i said hello to him at Sheetz. how gossipy. oh horrors. I mean I said Hi to Terri and Big W at DCA this past September. if I mention that here, am i gossipy too? wait...i went to pay my respects when Jim's wife passed away...even gave him a hug ( even if he came up to my armpits). Is that gossipy? Personally the saddest thing in this whole sordid mess outside of whats happened to the 12 women is the damage done to people are close to people close to Hopkins. Talk about collateral damage...people I have known my whole life tainted by association, yet did not one ###### thing wrong. or the kids in C2 now without a corps. or the kids that were in CWP or CWG.

This is my favorite GIF to use, especially with political discussions on social media.

I will add Velvet Knights to this thread - comedy meets quality on a football field! We all need a laugh and we all miss VK!

This is a wonderful personal tale re. " the dating scene ".... " your personal assessment/ experience with both married, divorced, unmarried men, and so forth. And it is to be respected. But none of this has anything at all to do with why the Lehigh Pennsylvania Prosecutors office believes that they have sufficient information in their possession from their investigation of George Hopkins to proceed with his arrest and charge of multiple counts of sexual assault, including that of Rape, of 2 women victims in their County of Pennsylvania. You understand that the fact that he apparently " respected " you in your ever so brief talks, dinner with you, has no bearing at all on what his alleged crimes he might have committed with others. Correct ? Some of the worst rapists, murderers on the face of the planet also had moments of kindness to others. For example, most of the Mafia men would be out raping, torturing, murdering, carving up, men and women at 4pm in the afternoon, then by 6pm they were bringing home roses, candy for their Mother, their Wife and/ or Mistress that they treated with " respect " 24-7. You seem like an intelligent women. So you understand that your acknowleged ever so brief experience with GH is not why the Prosecutor is charging him with crimes committed on two women victims of the crimes of rape and sexual assault, correct ?

what you don't realize is the more you type the worse you make it. Stop while you're already behind

Gee what a gentleman. When I go out to dinner with a woman I barely know and put my hand on her leg.....oh wait, I just remembered, that’s something I would never do. This is not normal behavior. Normal perv behavior perhaps. But thanks. Maybe the prosecutor can use you as a witness.

You won't miss much; now that the perc tech judge is not allowed to go see the battery, there will likely be no more flams...man.

By blindly only giving credence to one side of the story you sure don’t show that care you claim to have

But you are more than willing to utilize an incomplete passage for your own justification and throw that into the face of another; ironically it was also done in a judgmental manner!!! Which, by the way, is the typical misuse of said passage!!!

but you'll still come here and blast it right?

You opened the "can of worms" about his perverted behavior! So you can keep on destroying his reputation.

LOL... I asked Brenda for permission to kiss her when I asked her out, in 2013. I also apologized to her for me being so awkward... I hadn't asked a woman out since 1989, when I met Barbara. By '13, I was a bit rusty at that sort of thing.

I will watch every show, I will leave it at that. Whether live or on Flo, said the cat in the hat.

I’m sensing a little cognitive dissonance within this thread. You can’t, logically, believe both GH and the women who are accusing him. Any attempt at such is self satisfying self delusion, IMO. (I sincerely don’t mean this as an attack or slam... I simply don’t know how else to put it.) This subject is too important to just tiptoe around.

I must, am compelled, to take issue with this posting. The sin in the passage you reference is sexual (not abruptness). And in typcal fashion, like others who also attempt to use this passage as justification to not judge, you failed to complete the passage. She was told at the end, "Now go and sin no more." Thus if she had willingly and purposfully continued with her sexual sin after this incident she would have been even more guilty than before. The same holds true for anyone today who claims they have repented yet willingly and purposfully still continue down the same sinful path.

GH's "conspiracy theory" would make Glenn Beck #### his head like a German Shepherd and say WTH?!?

I hear ya.

Y'all...

The thing I loved about VK was their show development. They would add as the season progressed, and seemed to never sacrifice quality performance before adding in the fun.

This may be one of my favorite posts on DCP ever! I’m not a dinosaur opposed to innovation, but for me part of what made DCI special was how the designers could create sounds and visuals within the limitations that they had. Zingali’s “Cross to Cross” would be less impressive if the members did it on go carts.

And based on recent events, it now appears that, where DCI is concerned, common sense and common decency cannot be assumed in the rendering of such a determination.

Yup but unless these dudes could grow full beards at age 9 I’m pretty sure they marched into at least their mid 20s

For tonight only, who needs DCP or CNN,, when we have our own " As The World Turns" like show ?

I kinda know significant people in his life the last few years. Like all my life known them. But hey, conversations were happening...and it does look like someone wasn't listening

I think the board chair, with her background handles the complaints before Dan gets involved. but my GOD do they need PR help

Welp, I've been around this thing for a long time. I was at Spirit when Magic of Orlando couldn't feed it's kids. The joke then was Lose Weight Like Magic. I remember corps in the 90's having to ditch coaches for school buses. I was on the bus when I heard our food truck driver (at Spirit) couldn't get into Canada for .... various reasons.... we later heard he had an outstanding warrant don't know if that was ever true or not. I was with another corp in the early 2000's where one of instructors had to leave mid tour, turned out mom of one his kids back at his high school found out they were a thing. doh.... I'm not defending any of this stuff, I'm just saying it's been a round a long time and I'm happy to see that they are finally doing something about it. Now isn't the time to boycott now is the time to show support for an activity that's trying to do the right thing. I aged out a long time ago, and just 2 weeks ago I took my son to his first call-back camp so he could march a drum corp like I did and I'm proud of it. I don't post often, but I've been a register member of this board since 2003 reading all the comments every year.

Suncoast Sound and Magic of Orlando. Great Florida-based drum corps. Some great shows over the years. Suncoast Sound and their "Florida Suite" show is one I remember fondly.

" Hell Hath No Fury Like 10-12 Women Scorned " " The Power of 10".... Georgie.

Oh ouch. He went further than I did. Whoda thunk that?

it's the show design the team was working on...

Ahhh, Part 2 is one of the Piano Guys. They have some very interesting videos.

That is a great show. My son marched it when he attended Kutztown back in the late 90's.

relations with alumni had been shredded years ago, and just added more alumni as time went on. Plus the office staff turnover and anger, oy vey. Basically he found ways for people to not like him on a daily basis. And if this is the single defense, that means these alumni got 12 women to lie, right?

North Star was another cops that was just fun. Fantastic drumlines and holy crap that 1979 Sop Soloist was about as good as it gets.

yeah in a public place, it's a pretty good thing to do nothing when a woman says no. Granted, the charges don't involve public places, but why let semantics get in the way of a good Law and Order episode....oh wait, law and Order is great at semantics

I hope he wasn’t in a relationship at the time

or 1989... especially if one was British... and looked good in a masquerade mask

Star of Indiana really left a hole in the activity when they stunned us all with their game-changing "Medea" show in 1993 and then ceased to exist afterwards. I would have loved to have seen how they would build on the success of that show, even though its impact has reverberated all throughout the activity. Plus, it's sad that we don't have any corps from Indiana anymore.

Obviously I have to add another vote for 27th Lancers. But since I am overly biased, I will say Guardsmen. They had great horn lines and filled the oversized shako void.

Dutch Boy is a good start. I'll add the Bridgemen to the list. In 1976, they took the drum corps world, turned it upside down, and gave it a vigorous shake for good measure. LOL. Another corps with "fun" as its middle name... and a corps that also could throw down with the best of them.

In 2012, I only watched Regiment, Crown and SCV, In 2013, I only watched Crown and SCV. In 2014, although I had a subscription, I didn't even bother to watch finals week. In 2015, I only watched Crown, Cadets, BK and SCV. In 2016, I only watched Blue Stars, BK, Bluecoats and SCV. In 2017, I only watched Blue Devils, Bluecoats and SCV. In 2018, I watched everything I could throughout the whole season. In 2019, I will repeat 2018.

The whole “passion for his work” crap. Like that gives him permission to be an ***hole.

I hear "you're hurting the young people!" Well, how many marching members make a salary for what they do? None of them! Who is getting paid? DCI, Corps directors and staff. The kids get absolutely nothing for the crap that a lot of them put up with. Those kids in Pioneer went through a lot of garbage and who reall gets hurt by the ban? The kids. The staff members will go to other corps and RB has made his money and he can sell off the equipment. I will also say this......a corps director speaks the TRUTH and his corps is not allowed status in DCI BUT a corps director commits sex offenses and it's ok the corps can exist and still compete. Did I miss something?

The last thing I'd want is for DCI to go away. I'd imagine if too many people simply walk away, the activity could die. Why would anyone want that to be the outcome?

It's hardly a conundrum. Flags, rifles, and other guard equipment are tools used in the performance by members. A rifle doesn't toss itself. Flags don't spin on their own. The colorguard uses those tools to perform. They control the tools that should be used to generate GE.