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so a couple points from someone who actually participated in this event, and took it personally. thanks for all your feedback, good, and... well... seriously? sometimes, if you don't have anything nice to say, just... (comments censored) Hope you enjoyed your holiday. We sure as hell did. Anyway, we did it because well, why not. We have a corps that just celebrated 75 years, alumni who are very active in supporting the current corps, and three directors who wanted to "get the band back together" so to speak. I had the ability to hang out with guys who just marched, and guys who marched 30 years behind me and chat like we're all old friends. That's some magic if I've ever seen it. We couldn't do more drill than we could learn and clean in 12 hours (4 tues night, 8 wed, and practice time at the rehearsal site on our own), we had to make it accessible for everyone from the 15 year old current member to the 50, 60, and 70+ year old members, and to be honest, we have a boatload of participants, so it didn't leave room for much more than a park and bark. 2 step intervals just don't let you move around with a big old horn that easily. So yea, it was about getting everyone together under one roof, and trying to peel the paint off the wall. No, we didn't care about numbers of people for tv. We wanted representation. All of this was ok with all of the participants, directors, and yes, even Macy's and CBS and NBC who have to OK what goes on the TV. And no, no one cares about tv frame size or viewing angle. Not one single group. You as a ensemble cannot have any idea what the artistic director and production coordinator's are thinking and what they feel needs to be broadcast. I too, work in entertainment production, so don't talk to the masses here like they are stupid. They're not. It was out of our control, so we didn't worry about it. All decisions for your performance are approved by Macy's and the TV Stations. They have to approve everything you plan to play and do. If they don't like it, you have to change it. We had to cut music (we had all learned already) out of the performance last minute to make it all work in their time frame due to their proposed layout of performances during the broadcast. So seriously, as much as I enjoy the banter every once in awhile, shuddup. We jumped at the chance to go out and blow the windows out of the Foot Locker, and we did. We forced the recording engineer to ENTIRELY revamp his approach. haahahahahahah. Which was awesome. We went out and had some fun in the cold. For those of us who don't march anymore, it was a chance to not just put on a uni and pick up a horn, drum, or piece of gear, it was an opportunity to put on THAT uniform. You can say there are corps that change you when you put on a uni, but there's something different about being in the Scouts, or Cavies, Cadets, or BD or even Troopers. There's a history, and a tradition. I think that's why I have such a hard time thinking about forcing more injury onto my body by marching for someone else. It'll just never be the same. It's beyond inspiring to see gents from the 60s and 70s in the streets working on 5s till they were perfect. Gents who hadn't picked a horn up in 30 years to magically find a way to pull not just a buzz from their lips, but to pull together something presentable. And the guys who hadn't carried a drum in years to put on the harness (and a back brace) and hack until the wee hours of the morning so they felt it was clean enough to finally sleep at 3 am. I got a call from a friend tues night saying he's proud to be my friend, he'd watch for us, and there's not many corps that could pull off "pulling everyone together again". Even his own corps he aged out from he admitted they just don't have the support or pride from past generations to fathom making something of that scale happen. that says a lot. and it says a lot about the three guys who worked their butts off to organize this. housing, travel, busses, uniforms, horns, drums, flags, rifles etc etc etc. practice space and the family members who came out to help as support staff sewing unis last minute to make them perfect, dealing with food, checking people in and issueing horns and gear. So I hope you all had a happy holiday, if you enjoyed seeing us rattle the streets of NYC, you're welcome. This made the best start to a holiday season Ive ever had, and it bittersweet with this being the first holidays without my father, it became something my fam could really get into, Because Dad loved the holidays, and he loved the Scouts. I wish he'd have been here to see it. cheers.

Yeah, sometimes in situations like this the best (maybe only) approach = KISS: Keep It Simple Silly With EVERY production of any type, it could always be better, and hindsight is 20/20 (even BD 2014 could've been a little cleaner ). The best takeaway from C. Holland's post IMO is (paraphrasing), "TV blocking & other matters weren't in our control so we chose to focus on what was in our control (i.e. performing) and to our best to represent Madison Scouts/drum corps." That's really all that needs to be said: they took care of performing the heII out of their production and left editing and camera angles to the TV crew

I cannot believe that anyone would have the audacity to complain about the Scouts in the parade. They had members from all over the country (and other countries) participating who were brought together for about 24 hours to practice as a group. I would venture to say that there is no other corps who would have had such a tremendous alumni response. It was thrilling for the members and for their fans. It is about the brotherhood above all else. They made DCI proud. If you think you could have done it better, go stand outside in the 30 degree temperatures in snow, wind, and rain with no coat for 3 hours.

We drum corps guys rarely made model soldiers. I may be the only person in US Army history to have ever sunk a tank. E-5 in the morning, E-3 by sundown. The map reading blunder might have been forgiven, but when they (sarcastically) suggested they would take the cost of "road service" out of my pay, I blurted out that, at $109 per month, I didn't think I'd be in the Army long enough. That did it. "Sergeant, consider yourself a PFC." A week or so of washing tanks in the motor pool wasn't so bad. It was kind of Zen, actually.

6th rule: SHHHHHH - They did fine.

"become".......???

27th to be a darkhorse in '15.

Young Cappy, sir: One of the treasured hollowed traditions of the the Macy's Parade is the deputation of the members of the "Santa band" (whether they be drum corps or otherwise) as "Official Santa's Helpers." Hence the Scouts went with their green, white, and red uniforms styles rather than the French gendarme outfits which are also a historic part of Madison's 75 year tradition. One would think that youthful folk like yourself would not try to goad or upset the Scouts during these weeks of December, especially Chris Holland who already has a documentary about his influence up there at the North Pole. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319343/ Ho, ho, ho.

Thanks to you and the other Scouts who participated in a wonderfully entertaining production. I appreciate the work involved, the 75 year tradition of Scouts represented, and the drum corps panache that is so well-represented by Madison. You guys did a great job of representing the activity in general, and your organization specifically, to a huge audience and we're all grateful! Glad you all had a great time

The drum corps guys were always the best marchers in basic training. I found an old snare drum with a sling while cleaning the orderly room at basic in Ft Gordon, GA. I told the 1st Sgt that I could play the snare (gotta remember that I've been a sop since I was 12 years old-piston,slide). Our training company was the only company marching to a single snare with me playing my rendition of Reilly's street beat! The company commander thought it was great!

No, we don't all agree with that by any stretch. What most of us have come to realize is that it's a combination of factors that win championships, starting with a successful administration. Design team, teaching staff, talented and dedicated members, and outstanding support are all necessary in completing the combination. Design team alone won't win squat, let alone a championship.

Thanks for your response Frank. You got the old mind thinking. I guess the V/N war can be blamed for the demise of Reilly in addition to a lot of more serious subjects. I I left Reilly in April of '66 to go into the army. Most of the guys my age who were with Ridley Park, Bracken. Vasella, Vagabonds & many others moved on to Reilly & Archie for the '65 season. We all never made it to the '66 season, after answering Uncle Sam's call. Many went to the Marine D&B but the majority just blended in with the rest of 19 & 20 year olds. The '66 seson, as you know, saw the Archie-Reilly merger. I never got to see them on the field but heard it was a bit of a debacle. And thank you for your service. Ron Cook Sp5 E-5 519th MI Btn

I always dug Bobby Craig's vibe. He had a great drum line in the Polish Falcons in the mid-70's, and once bested Santa Clara in the Difficulty caption. I last saw him at the Hurricanes show about 4 years ago. He hadn't changed a bit. I can just picture him in country, playing solos on the foot locker. By the way, thank you both for your service. Frank Dorritie Sgt. E-5 142nd Armour

I am tired as I write this because I had the honor of joining with Madison at 3 am to do the "blocking and sound tech" session in front of Macy's. It took 4 "takes" for the TV gang to get it right. T.V. commentators had pre-recorded substitute voice-overs, including even comments going in and out of commercial break. The professionalism of Madison's organization under Chris and Scott was absolutely amazing as was the immediate and always spot-on response of the members who marched. The willingness to make the corps, the activity, and their individual personal reputations so stellar was tremendous as witnessed by their quick and absolute response to the horn sergeant's commands whose voiced echoed throughout NYC as if God himself was speaking. For me, it was an honor to witness the camaraderie and unity of the alums and present members as if all of them marched together in fact for many many seasons rather than this one event. From those who knew C.H. Beebe personally to the young un's in their novice whites from the past summer, their common focus was powerful. I particularly enjoyed the warm reception from various friends and admin/instructional staff members I have known over my fifty years in the activity. Being "live" at the blocking and at the parade gave me a great experience of the positive reaction Madison elicited along the line of march. With several of our legacy corps/founders celebrating major anniversaries during the past decade, Madison set a new standard and raised the bar exceedingly. Thank you to the poster who recorded and shared the photo session of the corps singing. There isn't a dry eye left in NYC while they are still replacing the shattered plate windows along 6th Ave and 33rd street. Loud and proud and a big hit with this NYC crowd. Well done, Scouts. Thank you...even if we hadn't had any snow until the Wisconsin corps arrived.

It's official, celebrity TV people become illiterate when working parades.

For getting up at o'dark thirty,marching 3 miles and then hoofing to the TV point in front of Macys (thanks for the info Cory) and then doing a show you learned in a couple of hours.... at whatever age.... in less than great weather.... looked ####ed clean to me.....

to me, the bolded sounds like "most likely marched at least 1 year of drum corps somewhere else"

here's what the national scale thinks of when they watch the Macy's Day parade: what commercials showing sales are what music or tv stars are on the floats waiting for Santa because that means right after he arrives they can flip on the Detroit Lions pregame show. right now, more people know who the Madison Scouts are then did before. 95% of the people watching the parade have no idea what clean is and isn't, nor do they care. They saw a huge group, that was stupid loud. Which means they're equal to KISS in terms of loud, but less pyro.

Friends: I am happy to share the Buccaneers' 2015 program announcement below. The corps had an incredible weekend. We bade an official 'goodbye' to the remarkable 2014 season with our annual year-end banquet Saturday night. At that event we inducted 5 outstanding Buccaneers into the Buccaneers Hall of Fame and also honored our Commodore, James C. Gruber, for his many years of selfless dedication to the corps. We kicked off the 2015 season yesterday with a very successful Membership Day. Lots of smiles at Twin Valley High School yesterday, as we got right to work on the 2015 show. The journey continues for brass and percussion this weekend with WINTER CAMP #1: - Saturday, December 6 - 9:00 a.m. to 6 p.m. - Sunday, December 7 - 9:00 a.m. to 4:15 p.m. Twin Valley HS, Elverson, PA. Registration begins both days at 8:15 a.m. JOIN US! #blueismycolor READING BUCCANEERS ANNOUNCE 2015 PRODUCTION: “TWIST-IT” The Reading Buccaneers Drum & Bugle Corps is proud to announce its 2015 production, “Twist-It.” With this year’s production, the Buccaneers will take you on a unique and unforgettable musical and visual journey full of unexpected and entertaining twists and turns. The Buccaneers will build upon the success of recent productions with a very ambitious program, highlighted by a spirited return to the corps’ classical music identity, but with a creative and modern twist added to each piece of music. Fans will recognize all of the music, but each chart will be infused with something unique and unexpected twists that will make the program engaging and entertaining, yet also forward-thinking and cutting-edge in the all-age drum corps activity. The twists and turns of the musical book will also be reflected in an ambitious visual program, which has become a Buccaneers hallmark. Look for lots of twisting, bending, shaping and re-shaping – not only in form but equipment as well – and other unexpected visual motifs to tie the program together. One of the enduring and compelling qualities of the drum corps activity is its ability to bring out the best in performers by giving them plenty of opportunities for growth that come from the unexpected twists and turns of the drum corps season. Above all else, the Buccaneers strive to provide our incredible members with an unforgettable experience in which they grow as people and as performers. This year’s program is a celebration of their journey. Musical selections include: Pagliacci, by Ruggero Leoncavallo Palladio, by Karl Jenkins Moonlight Sonata, by Ludwig von Beethoven "Going the Distance,” from Rocky, by Bill Conti William Tell Overture, by Gioachino Rossini Original music by Buccaneers designers Mark Lortz, Johnny Trujillo and Mike Lalli, along with other surprises you will know. The Buccaneers will rehearse next on Saturday, December 6 (9:00 a.m. – 6:00 p.m.) and Sunday, December 7 (9:00 a.m. to 4:15 p.m.) at Twin Valley High School, Elverson, PA. Both sessions are for brass and percussion only. Registration begins at 8:15 a.m. both days. This is going to be an incredible journey. Join us for all the twists and turns!

Well I think BD has had quite a few brass players age out during their current 8 year dominance and it hasn't affected their reign. The last time Cadets finished 7th at nationals was 1981 and with the turn out at auditions they had which is unusual for them, Im not sure this is the year they retest those lows. I still go with placement history and staff consistency at this stage of the season for my predictions.

Just wondering how you know they lost the MCM kids? There hasn't been a camp yet.

Maybe on both counts. I don't know, and I doubt you do either. There may have been multiple considerations involved. As someone else said, getting as many alumni together as possible probably will help with future fundraising, and maybe that's what was most important to them. Also, you might ask: which of the bands this year did the best job in staging--and how much time did that group have to rehearse together compared to the Scouts? Thanks to C. Holland's excellent post, we now have confirmation that (1) the Scouts deliberately didn't make TV staging a priority, preferring to focus on other matters, and (2) they had very little time to rehearse together (and still put out a great product).

Yup. All my thoughts on the experience as well. MYNWA

Well, the Cadets were the supporting cast. The 'star' of that show was Bill Irwin, the self-proclaimed clown prince. As it says in his Wikipedia entry... "In 1996, Irwin performed with The Cadets Drum and Bugle Corps at the 1996 Summer Olympics, in a "band on the run" sequence where he played Dr. Hubert Peterson of the fictitious Federation of United Marching Associations of America." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Irwin

It's a parade for a major retailer. It always has been. People can say all they want, but in the end it's a parade for a major retailer. it's not even an actual parade based on the tv cameras. The groups rush in (look at the pace of the performance just before their spot on tv), do what they can based on what the retailer and network decide and leave. You can't even see the size of the group because of the camera work - the same for every marching group. That one video on YouTube from the early morning parade sessions shows how small the actual performance space is. After Madison performed I'm surprised the windows on either side of that performance area didn't shatter.

Jeff Ream: I think the Cadets were the last corps to march Macy's Day Parade and played Swing, Swing, Swing with a smaller than usual corps but did drill as well. I think the Santa Clara alumni corps was the last drum and bugle corps to march the Rose Bowl parade, so often marched by the Hamm Indians drum corps of MN. For all the armchair-adjudicators critiquing this and that with TVs that may or may not be color perfect, sound perfect, and distraction free, this eye witness shares these insights. Some of the screamers played Bb. Other horn players were on G bugles. Each group playied on those instruments with which either they were more familiar or had marched on the drum corps competition field. The horn arranger for this project and faculty did a masterful job uniting 7 DECADES into one sound. That means there were great grandfathers, grandfathers, fathers, and grandchildren marching as one. Pretty neat trick I say and kudos to those "dinosaurs" and those no longer in Body by DCI tour shape who made the extra efforts and follow through. Percussion included a rank or two of those whose drums were the old style tenors (not meaning quads or multi-drum apparatus) played with traditional tenor mallets. Remember, the ensemble was not well rested and not due to any mis-step by administration. For one, they were at Macy's at 3 am for an hour and a half TV staging rehearsal (in uniform at 36 degrees.) For most, Eastern time zone is not what their bodies are used to. Then at 5 a.m., while the armchair-adjudicators were still well asleep, the corps, due to street closures, (they) marched ten blocks/avenues over to the buses and breakfast facility. Then back to the start of the parade which extended for three miles. Temperatures dropped to 30 degrees and the snow flurries began. Even the young high school and college groups were struggling. Many of their soloists did not play the whole parade route. Madison did not mail it in but delivered what they had! Come on, people. Be realistic. We're not talking an August evening at LOS conditions or personnel. Why give in to Brutus with his -10 DCP rating just to hear himself talk??? Or the other naysayers whose contribution to the activity is only in their own minds and myths?

Yet if someone had been as nasty to the Scouts about this parade (which has not happened in this thread as far as I can tell) as you're being to the Cadets, we would never hear the end of it. I've got several friends who were a part of that Cadets performance and everyone I've ever met who was involved in it said it was one of the most amazing experiences of their lives. That sounds awfully familiar to many of the things I've read from Scouts alums in this thread and elsewhere. And since we've already been lectured about the importance of exposure, how about a ten minute performance in front of a live audience of 85,000 and a worldwide television audience in the billions. Do you think that increases or decreases the odds on them making SOME kind of impact somewhere? As opposed to a thirty second clip in a nationally televised parade? I'd say BOTH corps made some kind of positive impact, to the degree that they could reach a large amount of people. Most who would be reached, I would imagine, were already aware of the activity in some form or other. But two marquis big name drum corps performing in front of the kind of mass audiences most corps have never known? It's all good. How anyone could think otherwise is beyond me. As far as the Cadets performance goes, it still baffles me as to why so many drum corps fans were so turned off by it. They did exactly what they were asked to do. And oh by the way, they did it extremely well. They even got to perform a significant portion of their competitive field show. In front of the WORLD.*** Was the rest cheesy and cornball? You bet. But they approached it with the same quality and level of excellence as everything else they did. And how is that more corny than playing a mash-up of Christmas songs and the tune "Happy?" Maybe the Cadets were just adapting their act to the stage upon which they were asked to perform. Just like the Scouts did for this parade. Something to think about. (*** = note that they got way more applause for the corny stuff than they did for the DCI competitive stuff....but suddenly applause is something to be embarrassed about, coming from someone in the Scouts?? Who knew?) I think those with criticisms about the Scouts performance in the parade have been reasonably respectful in their remarks. And for one simple reason. They DO see the bigger picture and realize that this kind of exposure is nothing but good for the activity. But hey, lets resurrect and subsequently trash the 1996 Cadets to make a point about how the Scouts were so much better. That makes sense. That's classy. There's the true brotherhood of the drum corps fraternity in action. Please... Seriously, anyone who was embarrassed by what *either* corps did in front of these massed audiences is not a true fan of drum corps IMO.

Thanks to those that appreciated our performance, it was the experience of a lifetime getting to perform with my brothers that came before me, that taught me, that I marched with, that have come after me and are keeping the corps going. It's funny too, because we have people on here criticizing, yet all over facebook I'm seeing messages from JD Shaw, John Meehan, Daniel Wiles, Dean Westman, Robert W Smith, etc congratulating us. And the millions along the route, and others on tv, facebook, twitter, etc as well that enjoyed it.

Spare me the picayune blatherings. DCI got coverage...The Madison Scouts got national coverage..."Drum and Bugle Corps" got national coverage. You want to get picky...go pick your teeth. Or your butt. I don't really care which you choose.

The scouts had literally ten years' worth of televised Macy's parades to view regarding camera angles, with the overhead angle being added in the last few years. So, no. (I hope you're not a defense attorney with that logic, LOLz. ) The concept of a massive corps appearing at a televised parade was a planning error-- that many performers don't fit in a TV frame. Would you rather tell the 200+ Scouts who didn't fit in frame that they were edited out after all their work? The Scouts' planners were thinking in terms of massive live performance and reunion, which isn't what this televised event is about. It's primarily about the 25 million viewers on TV, not the three million in attendance. Live attendees were dazzled by the Scouts' power. TV audiences, however, viewed the corps through a tiny TV portal and a street-sized performance space and a 45 second performance window, and the show design should have been adjusted accordingly. For example, if you had a Macy's performance by the members of the revival of the Broadway play Cats, you would probably avoid making it a reunion parade unit, which would have like 350 performers dressed as cats, falling over each other in a small street sized stage space, with disorganized heaps of fur flying around and spilling out of frame. There were two additional problems. First, the oversized drum line overpowers outdoor Sennheiser mics with a hairy windshield. That's a mistake. Second, corps need to begin to design for television performance, limiting the number of performers and condensing the scope and intensity of the production to a tiny performance space. DCI has been spoiled by the great television production crews on DCI shows which have adjusted the camera angles, jibs and framing to suit the field shows, capturing the depth and richness of the performances, wide, medium and closeup.

drum corps a la Matt Lauer??? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205411736839006&set=p.10205411736839006&type=1&theater

Seriously, how drunk were these announcers by the end of the parade?

Thank you for your honest and wonderful comments about our beloved corps!!! I can only hope and pray that the love and enthusiasm for the Scouts will permeat through adjudication on the competitive field this summer!!!!

"That was the Kansas City Star..."

Not particularly grateful for any of the Bach mouthpieces - play on a Schilke 51D for years. Grateful for friends - not FB friends where you get thousands (Pepe - "Tow Zunds") Real friends. Grateful to have met and sometimes worked with some of the all-time greats - I often feel like Forrest Gump, whose path seemed to cross every significant person of his era. Grateful to my folks for putting me to work at 13. Grateful to a few great teachers, from Brother Mulvihill at Chaminade who would accept nothing less than the best you could do, to John Sasso (who coincidentally was the same way) to his brother Ted, to Ernie Fesier, to Robert Gramm on trombone, to Gene Glickman from Queens College, to David Patterson at UMass Boston. I've left out a bunch. To hundreds of great drum corps people I played and worked with. To my kids for following their hearts without breaking mine. To my wife Carrie for owning it. To people who have been forgiving enough to include me in a couple of halls of fame (that I probably shouldn't be allowed to buy tickets to) To some incredibly great corps like Sun, Hurcs, Bridgemen, Crossmen, Boston Jr and Sr, Archie Alumni, DCA, and Alumni and more that have hired me, fired me, hired me back, refired me, and mainly been good to me for an awful long time. To Ralph Parkhill who drove me to practice and I&E shows in Oceanside. To the people I competed against (and with) week after week at those I&E shows. To Sasso, Delucia, and a couple of others that trusted me enough to give me those first jobs. Like the Baseball been berry berry good to me guy on SNL, Drum Corps (and life) been berry berry good to me. To JetBlue, which was a great place to work and to retire from. And to this group, that seems to be the only social medium that doesn't make my head want to explode. Happy Thanksgiving. And to Dorritie, who does most everything better than most people, including gratitude lists, and is just that good a guy.

Ditto on this one. I was watching with my family and they caught it too...we all just kind of looked at each other and laughed.

That would be a laugh especially since he pulls in 25m each year plus a limo.

"The Madison Sprouts"

The Daave is correct. There is a flag code violation as pictured on Youtube. What is not included is when the corps turns to our right facing the TV cameras that day head on, thus making the US colors the first in the file (which is correct.) Solution of what Daave cites is to pinwheel the AF squad so that AF is on far right. But Macy's TV producers are infamous for their disregard of flag code to accomodate the TV limitations of time and space.

Just watched there run throught for the parade its on utube ,they look huge ,sound great and will make anyone that ever marched in any drum corps very proud to be a part of this wonderful actively .

:lol:

I guess after marching next to one particular corpsmate you're sensitive to over-blowing, especially on the mello or french horn.

It's not trivial, at all. Sitting at breakfast this morning with my old roommate, Ralph Hardimon, he pointed to a quote on a news feed: "Hatred has caused many problems, but it sure hasn't solved any." All my experience in teaching indicates that people will only truly learn from example. Sometimes the best way to teach technique is to simply say, "Just make it sound like this." So, let's just live the solution daily. Illegitimi non carborundum. I think the space aliens let us live primarily because we can make music. The rest they can do without.

There a possible answer might be "a fifteen year old and who is the son of another alum." If his Dad was marching, that would be great too........................and knock off some of those DCA is better than DCI critics. I know I witnessed fathers and sons perform at Cavaliers' anniversary, Cadets' anniversary, and even fathers/mothers and daughters too (except for Cavs.) Now if Madison has been cleared to be Santa's musical introduction, does that mean the Mad Men have been cleared as the "Good Boys" of drum corps???

A Scout alumni's Son could only march if he himself was a one time member.

in order to participate, they would have to have been either a 2014 member, or alumnus of the corps. some are carrying G bugles, some are on Bb. But its a Madison arrangement for sure.

Another interesting story about Drum Corps and Macy's parade. One year a friend of mine was a Director with the a H.S. Band from Florida. They too were to be at Start and bring in Santa at end. Well they got to NYC and forgot their Cymbal's. He called me and I called the Quartermaster for the NYC Skyliners. (I had helped him all the season before on Sky's Truck). He said I could get them for the Band. BUT, I was responsible to get them back for the next rehearsal. So I drove up from central Jersey to NYC to deliver them. Then as it turned out MY home town was having the our City Christmas Tree Lighting the next day. So the Band, came down to PLAY for it. As a thank you to me. The City was amazed at how Large the band was. They were given (Every member: a Lunch by the City Fire Dept., Key to the City by the City,, a small Glass with the City Seal and more trinkets. And it was Front Page News with photos and all. So the NYC Skyliners Cymbal's equipment marched one more time than the Corps. Although not many knew about it.

Careful where you get your info. About 25% are current members or recent alums, and 100% are members of the brotherhood, with no exception.

All performers are alums of the corps. Roughly 330 alums and about 95 guys from the 2014 corps. Please do not believe any myths you may see about who is involved and who is not, unless they are facts. Scott Stewart is also involved which is great.