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I think "the four vocalists who busted their ### and auditioned to get in this corps before this whole thing broke should totally be shown the door because Hop paved the way for singing in drum corps and they need to send a message" is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've read on this forum so far this year. Thanks for coming guys, but the former director who was fired for grossly inappropriate behavior liked singing, so.... I guess if you want to stay, you could always run met for rehearsals!

IMO their largest achilles heel (accent on the "heel") is now history.

In a 2016 interview, Dan Richardson responded to a question about his favorite Regiment show by saying "My favorite was New World Symphony in 1989 since it brought out the best in every section..." I am delighted that Phantom Regiment's 2018 program in the year of his death will incorporate Dvorak's classic and pay tribute to my friend and fellow MM from 1957 -1960.

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What I don't understand is the way Cadets percussion has been STAGED over the past several years. This is going back to when Jeff was still writing the drill. Beginning in 2014, and just getting worse from there. When you have the drumline they had, WHY would they be staged in the BACK of the field?? This even happened during features. I'm hoping it's better this year. When you have a line being instructed by McNutt or Aungst, they should be prominently featured. Please. And thank you. :)

These changes are nothing compared to Hopkins constant rewrites and additions.

Only days to go for Boston to start ST. Wednesday for percussion and this weekend for everyone else. I would hazard to guess the program announcement will soon follow MM's arrival. They get to hear it first. Very exciting. Can't wait. I think they'll have a smoking horn line.

OK...as much as I am not a fan of art (paintings) I just took the time to read a few reviews about "Nighthawks" the actual painting itself. It seems pretty straight-forward to me. I've never been a big fan of artsy-type stuff...but this does not give me that vibe...seems more of a backdrop to set a mood and tone...I have a feeling I'm going to really like BD's show like I did last year...

I'd just set the piece in 8/4 then and save half the cost... Mike

Bottom line on Copyrights, is that you can't steal things in Music that arn't your own creations. This guy was the exception depicted here. Although he was 2nd string, he was treble on pitchers, and was known to steal a bass or two.

the problem with the percussion caption was it was sooooooooo deep. With Crown taking that next huge step up, Boston adding themselves in the mix.....man. judging all of that was truly separating fly #### from pepper

mu hunch is New World is weaved in and out of the show

I am so, so, happy for Cadets’ MMs that such respected and talented people are onboard and working hard to give them a great season. There is no shortage of challenges, but they are under capable leadership. Regardless of anything, this is likely to be a very memorable edition of The Cadets. Previously alienated alumni and benefactors will be returning. Audiences are going to give them the warmest of welcomes, and these young adults are going to remind us why we love this activity. Let’s get ready for a new era.

The Phantom Regiment of the past 5 years, hopefully.

Perhaps she would have won you over if she had smacked her own butt with a tambourine.

Oh yeah. Smokin’ hot.

Totally. 100% agree. It will be so nice to see the MMs get a chance to truly nail down and execute what the real designers intend.

which was very odd - I don't think the DCI judging community knew what to do or make of Cadets 2017 program, especially percussion wise (which I felt was their best caption last year)

I’m no fan of singers. Simply because the acoustics can never be controlled in different stadiums. It takes hours for bands to setup for venues and that’s something corps don’t have time to do. In addition, the quality of voice, electronics and ensemble are never ever consistent. Frankly I have yet to see the value of narrative or voice in any production on a football field.

Heck just losing GHs design ideas should add 2-3 placements lol

Scott Litzenberg, along with a great staff steered that corps to the success it sees today. I was proud to be a soloist in 87 with that hornline. Scott wore many hats that year. Many times found himself driving a bus to the next show. Great man. Im sure will do a great job. Congratulations Scott

https://yea.org/news/2025-cadets2-welcomes-director-tom-maiello

This would be pretty awesome if they used Vanishing Act...a very haunting piece by Lou Reed

" You know I love you darling, you are the light of my life, my sun, moon and stars, without you I have no reasons for being " lol.

We’re down to one corner of his mouth! It’s the one that had the most problematic tooth. He has a “gum flap” in that corner that is perplexing him, but no pain. Buzzed a mouthpiece for a few minutes today, including triple tongued exercises. Says it “feels weird” but no pain and no blood. Move ins are Friday. Just love that the staff has been so awesome. He’s on his way back! Might actually hear a note out of a horn tomorrow!

John do you love me?

Have you ever been to the Norman Rockwell Museum ( not far from you ) in Stockbridge Ma. Liahona ? Sometimes when folks arn't into high brow Art, they oftentimes can find Rockwell's Illustrations interesting on trips there that display hundreds of his paintings, illustrations, scribblings, doodlings. etc and what have you.

I don't even know what that is....LOL I can appreciate others that like that sort of thing though...

We were so emotionally spent that there was no way the finals show would ever live up to prelims. Thankfully, the next season finals were held the day after prelims.

That is a crazy short turnaround, for sure. All the years that the DCA title show was the "prelims-finals in one day" format, I never saw a corps do two truly great performances in that same day. I would imagine that held up for the DCI corps in that era as well, for the most part. And it seemed that corps battling to make finals certainly put their focus on their prelims performance, since that was do or die. So, perhaps not as much gas left in the tank for finals. LOL.

All I can say is that I look forward to what Bobby Jones comes up with now that he isn't being forced into GH ideas. Bobby and Hammonds came up with a great show that I had the opportunity to participate in the 2010 Reading Buccaneers.

as long as the arrangements provide new perspectives not previously heard I don't mind...with the emphasis on visual design music is often chopped up such that it loses identifiability ,,,so two or more corps playing the same piece of music might go unnoticed by the non drum corps savvy

THE CADETS ANNOUNCE THEIR 2018 PROGRAM.....

They should move up two spots just because of that.

Movements 1 and 4 are in the Spotify playlist Phantom provided.

A comparison does not mean two things are identical - only that they are similar in certain aspects. For example, figure skating vs. drum corps: - They are both competitions. - They both combine performance and artistry. - As a result of the above, they are both judged subjectively. - Both commonly face similar criticisms of their subjective judging, such as "slotting" (judging by reputation instead of responding to the performance of the day), or the "Russian judge" (a judge with consistent personal bias tracing back to their roots in the activity). Of course, figure skating is not identical to drum corps. Their teams have less performers. Many are solo competitors, some are pairs, and there are also synchronized skating contests with teams of 16 skaters each. With fewer performers (and the risk of falling on ice), the differences in performance quality from day to day can be far more pronounced in skating. The failure of judges to respond to those performance issues, therefore, seems even more egregious (which is why I do not follow skating anymore). That said, 150-person ensembles also vary in their performance quality (and design, as shows change) from day to day. And I will not be the first to point out that judges sometimes do not respond to those differences.

I looked up the painting in Wikipedia and guess who is already mentioned therein.

Funny enough, they were actually their highest placing performance caption last season.

It's a good selection of music. This show seems a little more light than the last several years. Let's get back to you doing shows that I love, Phantom. Have a great season!

Ok so who dies?

"AAAAAAAAAAMEN!" "It's a small world after all..." Anybody remember these? ... Probably not.

If the visual presentation matches the quality of the musical selections they've provided us with, this is going to be a fantastic show. Also, I hope there's no cheesy narration like that trailer has (especially after last year's show).

Yeah, I think narration is more annoying than singing.

Singing in Drum Corps ( both DCA and DCI ) has been incorporated into Corps shows to some extent or other for decades now. Long before Concert French horns, Trombones and the like have been utilized as a matter of fact. Since singing in Drum Corps been approved and with us for decades now, I'd imagine the ones that are ok with singing when utilized appropriately, will continue to do so, and the ones that don't like singing in Drum Corps no matter what, won't ever like it. But thats no different than any other changes, ie amplification, narration. spandex uniforms, conventional MB instrument utilizations , big props, and all the rest of the changes. You either like it, or you don't. Same as it ever was. Changes in Drum Corps were rapidly taking place well before George Hopkins even arrived on the scene. Changes will occur long after he's gone too.

I’m with your folks on that one! The Poet and Peasant and Masterpiece Theater were Ken Norman charts. The rest were Tim Salzman charts. We were a brassline in transition. They really shined the next year. An abundance of talent.

This is very true Faster doesn't mean better Louder doesn't mean better Tossing more or higher doesn't mean better Nostalgia rehash doesn't mean better Doing more doesn't mean better NOR does the opposite mean easier BUT, if one can achieve any of this and still maintain excellence it can be outstanding ( Not that a great program needs it ) All choice by a corps.

A lot of people revere that show for the big ol number it got, but I love that show for being the start of a more audience friendly Blue Devils. Hope this years show is no different.

I get @Liahona's point in that they are both judged competitions. There is no stopwatch or measuring tape providing a more definite measure of achievement. Yeah, they're totally different activities, but have some things in common with how they are assessed.

Below average? You have got to be kidding.

or what you are willing to pay. :-(