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DCP: " corps don't release anything til close to the start of the season and it sucks! back ib my day we read DCW to find out their show!" Troopers release a video with the composers names in February DCP: " how is that going to attract kids, wasted resources! why back in my day....."4 points
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I think you missed something in the mission statement. Just as I don't believe that there's anything wrong with gay chambers of commerce, the Girl Scouts, or the VFW, I don't have a problem with private institutions setting their own definitions of what qualifies an individual for membership. Guess I'm ok with letting other people live their own lives of their own choosing.3 points
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Saturday, June 20 - DCI West Location: Stanford, CA Sunday, June 21 - DCI Crossroads Location: Zionsville, IN Friday, June 26 - DCI Central Indiana Location: Muncie, IN Friday, June 26 - Drum Corps: An American Tradition — Allentown Location: Allentown, PA Saturday, June 27 - Drum Corps at the Rose Bowl Location: Pasadena, CA Tuesday, June 30 - The Northwoods Encore Location: Stevens Point, WI Sunday, July 5 - DCI La Crosse Location: La Crosse, WI Sunday, July 5 - DCI Orlando Location: Orlando, FL Wednesday, July 8 - Celebration in Brass Location: Ankeny, IA Saturday, July 11 - DCI Memphis Location: Memphis, TN Saturday, July 11 - Tour of Champions - Northern Illinois Location: DeKalb, IL Sunday, July 12 - DCI Midwestern Championship Location: St. Louis, MO Sunday, July 12 - Drums Along the Rockies Location: Denver, CO Tuesday, July 14 - DCI Broken Arrow Location: Broken Arrow, OK Thursday, July 16 - DCI Austin Location: Round Rock, TX Thursday, July 16 - DCI Denton Location: Denton, TX Friday, July 17 - DCI Houston Location: Houston, TX Saturday, July 18 - DCI Corpus Christi Location: Corpus Christi, TX Saturday, July 18 - DCI San Antonio Location: San Antonio, TX Monday, July 20 - DCI Mesquite Location: Mesquite, TX Tuesday, July 21 - DCI McKinney Location: McKinney, TX Wednesday, July 22 - DCI Little Rock Location: Little Rock, AR Friday, July 24 - The Masters of the Summer Music Games Location: Murfreesboro, TN Saturday, July 25 - DCI Southeastern Championship Location: Atlanta, GA Sunday, July 26 - NightBEAT Location: Winston-Salem, NC Tuesday, July 28 - Drum Corps: An American Tradition — Annapolis Location: Annapolis, MD Wednesday, July 29 - Drum Corps: An American Tradition — East Rutherford Location: East Rutherford, NJ Friday, July 31 - DCI Eastern Classic, Day 1 Location: Allentown, PA Saturday, August 1 - DCI Eastern Classic, Day 2 Location: Allentown, PA Monday, August 3 - DCI Open Class World Championship Prelims Tuesday, August 4 - DCI Open Class World Championship Finals Thursday, August 6 - DCI World Championship Prelims Friday, August 7 - DCI World Championship Semifinals Saturday, August 8 - DCI World Championship Finals2 points
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I can't believe you just compared all male drum corps to a white nationalist group. Read up on Harvard and it's (losing) court battles with single-sex clubs and organizations if you want to learn more about what is and isn't considered "discriminatory"2 points
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And they can. And apparently they want to. And apparently 150 members want that atmosphere So - there ya go!2 points
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Neither. I just don't get the "implication" that males are suddenly fleeting Scouts due to going coed - I don't buy it. This sounds a bit like the chicken and the egg - Scouts had a tough season - lots of folks jump ship after a tough season to go to another corps they feel will be better for them I'd encourage everyone to let this play out and trust that these young members are a lot more aware and evolved than perhaps some folks think But if there's members who want an all-male corps - then go for it! Doesn't mean they hate women or anything...2 points
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"Cheer meets Drumline Battle" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7978885/Cheer-team-suspended-rest-year-getting-brawl-squad.html#v-1284775270735984595 EDIT: If someone can figure a way to post the vid, please do.2 points
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“Oppression” - wow and there were many decades of exclusively female groups - some incredibly great — that I’m quite sure local boys were “oppressed” by Cadets and many others were exclusively male for many decades the USA senate was exclusively male and now it’s not the presidency has been all male that will change, probably in the next decade or so this thread is really something! The lack of compassion and comprehension and knowledge and the various obvious agenda are really unbelievable do folks not know men have been going from Scouts to Cavaliers for decades - especially the last decade or two, but yes in the 90s and even before cavaliers have many championship - even pre DCI2 points
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No music geek here lol. Work IT and lost the battle trying to keep up with new stuff there years ago.... just stay in my own niche (Unix and Oracle)2 points
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When speaking of ‘small,’ must not forget Whitewater and Ithaca !2 points
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I said this before and I'll say it again. If there were still all female corps nobody would blink an eye about bringing up the brotherhood that the Cavaliers and Scouts have/had that made them unique in a negative light. Not sure why saying they lost their identity by bringing in all genders is considered bad now.2 points
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Pretty much agree with this. With each passing season the distinctives between corps has less to do with iconography and more to do with vibe. I don't think any kid tries for BD because of jazz, or goes out for Bloo because of their origins in police outreach. They try out for a corps because they saw this year's show and they say to themselves I want to be part of that kind of show The strongest recruiting tool for next season is the show you put on the field this season. The show -- whatever ineffable quality it has that a 19-year-old finds attractive -- is what is going to motivate that young person to buy a plane ticket to your November camp. The show is the consummation of everything you are -- the vibe of your corps.2 points
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I've said it before: Troopers could hand out $100 bills and they'd get criticized for it. It's not as if Troopers don't know how to speak directly to the interests of its customer base, or how to play from the strength of their own heritage. Jumping the gun on licensing is, indeed, a real concern, and one which the Troopers have had to heed in previous seasons, saving their show reveals until May. They've been around the block. So here's an idea. It's wild, and preposterous, I know, because after all this is the Troopers we're talking about. But here it is anyway: Maybe, just maybe, the corps actually has its licensing sewn up for 2020. Maybe they know exactly what they're doing, and have been able to get their programming house in order good and early, in order to get a stronger start on the season. I know, huh? Crazy talk. And maybe, now that they have their program locked up, they want to share a bit about it with the drum corps world. You know, because excitement about the summer is, on balance, a good thing. Fools! Dupes! Know-nothings! Look, it's not like this video drop is the first and last word Troopers ever have, or ever will, say about themselves, their unique character, their place in the activity and the hearts of their members, or even their 2020 show. It's. One. Video. But no. We can't even enjoy it. /rant2 points
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2019 was something completely special. Actually, special is not the right word to use... I am sure Don would be proud of the corps and would be thrilled for them to look forward to the future. The railroad has been placed and now it depends on if they choose to stay on the right side of the tracks. Go get'em Cavies!1 point
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That Crown's staff designs a show that wins a second title.1 point
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All of this narrows down to what I said that started this whole mess. If there were still all female corps nobody would care about there still being all male corps. If I ever win the lottery I'm going to fund an all female corps to put this theory to the test. That's if DCI still exists at that point, because we all know it's demise is spelled out almost every year. But wait...will that be okay because I'm a male? Want to be sure that I'm being completely PC here.1 point
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"Although HBCUs were originally founded to educate black students, their diversity has increased over time. In 2015, students who were either white, Hispanic, Asian or Pacific Islander, or Native American made up 22% of total enrollment at HBCUs, compared with 15% in 1976." -Wikipedia1 point
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I thought the historically Black colleges were open to students of all races.... at least Howard University is...1 point
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"Our mission is to provide members with life-changing experiences, educationally and socially, which help each individual member gain real-world life skills, musical training, and performance experience. Through the development of the character traits of dedication, discipline, and teamwork, each member of this close-knit, all-male fraternity learns what is required to be successful on and off the performance field." That sounds like an educational organization to me1 point
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"Oppressors!" 😎 The Cavaliers are a boy band, not an "educational institution". If being all-male is the vibe they want to roll with, it's no more or less significant than any of the girl groups pictured, and makes absolutely no difference to anyone else's lives.1 point
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The oppression comment is honestly quite funny to me, being a gay male. Lets talk about being drug behind pickup trucks, robbed beat and left for dead, Stonewall, marriage, not being able to order a cake from a store, or being used as slaves for dirty old men at parties because they hid their fetishes from their wives in ancient greece. Women weren't allowed to vote, hold office, write, read, sold as livestock, etc. or not allowed to march in a drum corps because it's all male. Apples and oranges if you ask me, but not being able to march a corps because they don't allow your gender is certainly not oppresive. Also, where was the outrage when Phantom decided to not allow men in their guard again after 2008? Sure there were a few, but not to the point of Madison allowing the other gender among their ranks.1 point
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No complaints here. Just waiting for the rubber to meet the road! Let the evidence be your guide.1 point
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My music geekdom is for "back in the day" groups like The Fugs and Root Boy Slim and the Sex Change Band. LOL Now... I would love for a drum corps to tackle some Root Boy.1 point
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Reading through these and I start to think...."Wow! All these old experts on here and are just NOT with the times!" Seriously, maybe the music is cool enough to attract kids to join. Maybe the designers have some cool approach to the 2020 season. Maybe WE should stop living in the past and move on to the future! Face it ladies and gentlemen, the times they are a'changin" and all we are is spectators! We are like old veterans who say, "Back in my day......" Well drum corps has changed significantly and by now you should realize that the old days are gone! Tradition is not what it was!!!1 point
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Chick Corea, former soprano for the St. Rose Scarlet Lancers and recent inductee to the World Drum Corps Hall of Fame, picked up the Grammy last week for "Best Latin Jazz Recording", for his double album "Antidote". Maybe some hipster program designer will take notice when planning for 2021. Chick being an avid fan of the activity, I think licensing and arranging permission deals would be very favorable in that case.1 point
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" the future of dci is wgi. " A viable premise. I think it's already materialized to a great extent. As for arrangers, I wouldn't sell the current crop short. In addition to those luminaries already mentioned, there are a few others with very heavy pens, like Jay Bocook, JD Shaw and Chuck Naffier. Beyond that, it would not surprise me if there were a couple in the woodwork about to break loose. What better way to make your bones than a Chick Corea chart. Hint: No one has yet maximized synth/electric piano in our beloved activity. Chick's "Antidote" charts with their horn, keyboard and percussion mix just about scream contemporary drum corps.1 point
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So many on here think that THEY should be the ones being recruited to march, not the actual students who will be marching. An 18-year-old music geek - probably the kind that corps like this are trying to attract - will like this show announcement. "I get to perform Sigur Ros?!? Yes please."1 point
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And was a #### good show. Kilties blew the house down for the second time in a row.1 point
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he's won 20 grammies and been nominated 60+ times. his work gets better and better, imo. i think we romanticize the number of dci arrangers who have been able to take modern jazz and make it work on a football field. bd 94's rep in the hands of anybody but downey or maybe boerma in that time period would've been a complete disaster. it's lightning in a bottle. which dci arrangers in today's dci would you trust to take his amazing work and translate it for dci? i can't think of any, and don't think i didn't try. don't get me wrong. i want it. i just don't want it mangled and chopped and bopped beyond recognition.1 point
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I think these are the most compelling factors for students moving from Madison to the Cavaliers: An increase in competitive success A greater challenge to take on A desire to be a "blender" in a group versus a leader A similar level of historical prestige (in the same way that the Cadets, Boston, etc have such alluring histories) Geographic proximity Friends in the Cavaliers who previously marched Madison (and, thus, can offer an insider's scoop on how the two groups compare) With Madison having a slightly younger, more inexperienced cast these past two seasons, I think vets feel obligated to serve as leaders if they returned. Some are eager to take on that role and do so with such passion. Others, however, would rather march at a group where they just get to "do their job" and blend in with the rest of the ensemble on the field, vs being burdened with any off-field leadership roles. In that sense, I feel like Madison has done a tremendous job at awakening students to the breadth of their potential (thanks to all the leadership training each member undergoes). It just so happens that, after becoming more self-aware, many students discover that their growth would happen more rapidly elsewhere; on the other hand, many students discover that Madison doesn't offer enough to satisfy their cravings for growth. If this is all true, it feels like the next step for Madison, then, is to find more ways to keep their students hungry. I'm hopeful that a more robust, competitive show this summer can do exactly that. All of this is to say: I think that the Madison students going to Cavaliers are simply seeking a more intense experience that better aligns with their personal desires. While the all-male brotherhood of the Cavaliers may resemble their social environment from Madison, I think this is an unimportant factor.1 point
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Yeah, part of what happens on the internet. here's a nice little piece that i think a corps could do good stuff with1 point
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this would be haunting! the section at 2:55 where each voice just sustains and the choir creates this single mass of stacked notes and then finally resolves is genius!1 point
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Since we are wishing... 1. That Carolina Crown or Phantom brings back Belshazzar’s Feast **Unless there is some sort of John Williams- like moratorium on William Walton music. Which to that, my apologies for not knowing. But at least that would explain an absence of his music by corps for many years** 2. Bluecoats continue to play familiar music or massively entertaining shows. Also, they get a full show to perform at halftime of the Hall of Fame game, and it’s televised. 3. Cadets: Drill and symphonic music is an integral part of their show design. My love of this corps has stemmed from being the benchmark for music is movement. I would like a “wow” With those two things, symphonic and drill again this year. 4. Madison gives us a memorable and entertaining show.1 point
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