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Their first performance will be on 3.14. I’ll let myself out.

People are acting like it's something new in the activity. Maybe lets talk about corps ( some ) who NEVER paid people who should have been. Corps that made promises only to make some lame excuses why it never happened, Some of the same corps who ( because of some fortune only in the past several years NOW think they are the play book for how to do things when only a few years ago were doing the same thing. Is it right? Of course not. Should Cadets pony up to their commitment? YES but lets not jump on the Cadets as if many of peoples favorites have been guilty of the exact same thing. When you have been around long enough IN the activity, actively participating, there are plenty of stories to go around . Just sayin

DCI expelled Pioneer in part because their director was recalcitrant when confronted with complaints and referred to whistle-blowers as "snitches". But look at the bright side: at least he didn't call for them to be executed!

Which is what the YEA email stated from the YEA admin to the staff members. They did NOT try and blow off the staff....they acknowledged that they owe them $$$. Is it a good thing to have those cash flow issues? No, but the new YEA team was upfront with their staff members. IMO this should be seen as a positive for the team, not a negstive to roast them over the coals.

I believe some people are just more frustrated because the thought was that a lot of this would change with new people at the helm. While we know change takes a relatively long time to take place, it's important to understand that Cadets need no more controversy given the circumstances. However, I am ALWAYS against giving up. That's not the lesson Cadets taught when I marched and I don't believe many people on this thread who marched there learned that lesson as well. Regardless, I, too, am pleased with the people who are (back) at the helm and although I am reserving any excitement until August, I am hopeful that we will get a competitive product this upcoming season. FHNSAB...

I was that 3rd baritone tech once, not in drum corps, but the equivalent. I accepted a job at a summer program that was educational in the morning and a camp in the afternoon. It had a goal of helping 5-8th graders improve their reading and math skills and keep them occupied during the day. I was supposed to be paid at the end of the summer, but funding fell through. I was probably the same age at the time as the techs would be today and I had student loans and other bills to pay. Looking back almost 30 years later, I would not trade that experience, but at the time it was a huge hardship. When you’re young and just starting out, every penny counts. For those who want to be of assistance like the 3rd baritone tech who took a low paying position but still expected to be paid, the proper response is “Thank-you,” not “shut up and get a better paying job.” Now to bring it back to drum corps, that job did have a perk. Drum corps who came to the Boston area often were housed at B.C. High or U Mass Boston. So if you marched from 1987-1992 and stayed at either facility, I probably saw you rehearse.

All you have seen from the slip and fall event is what the guy is saying in his filing. Of course he is making it look as bad as possible for YEA!. That is the purpose of what he filed. Nobody really knows what YEA! did and did not do, only what the person alleges to make his own case as strong as he can to try and make a bunch of $$$$. On the payment issue, yes, it stinks that the cash flow is such that some staff have not yet been paid from the 2019 season. Don't forget, what started this is an email FROM the YEA! admin to the staff acknowledging that they owe the people money, and that they will be paying as soon as they can. They were not covering anything up or trying to stiff the tech staff. With USBands season here, my guess is the cash flow aspect will be better in the fall. Just a guess.

wouldn't that have to be(come) a Bloos Brother show?

Let them worry about it, not you. Be less jerky & wish them well. As the saying goes "In a world where you can be anything...be kind".

“Delayed the payment schedule”. That’s one way to put it I guess. If my employer “delayed the payment schedule” on me, I would be seeking out a new employer. I guess that kind of ‘tude on my part would make me a less than ideal dream corps activity employee. The ideal employee understands that this is a nonprofit activity where corps run on a shoestring budget and pay is low and you understand your pay might be “delayed.” In other words, the ideal employee is either a saint or a sucker.

1. They are paying people, according to the rumor mill they have delayed the payment schedule. Nothing they have done is "illegal" - it's certainly not great but you're exaggerating 2. Perhaps you missed all my other posts - where I talk about how slow and steady progress on the fiscal front which will take several years to get back on solid ground 3. I hold Cadets to the highest standards - and believe me, I contribute 4. Posting private emails on a website to spread rumors and bad news is not "contributing to a solution" - donating and volunteering is. Are you? 5. Finally PRIOR MANAGEMENT is what got the Cadets in the situation they are in now - not this group. Burned bridges and poor fiscal management have. Damage to the organization's reputation have cost them housing, donations, membership & importantly bands have defected their USB circuit. A lot of work being done on all these fronts to move the ball forward. But please don't blame it on current leadership. G.

I doubt April is going to have them push props and stand still to spin like many are doing these days - I just can’t even imagine it.

Ok now.. Has everyone gotten the "Let's find something else to trash the Cadets with this week "out of their system??? Are we going to have to live through next week ragging and whining about how the brass people had to bring their own toilet paper to ST so they can clean up the crap posted here??? First, it's not any of our X?X?ing business. We have no idea what they are going through nor do we need to know. They need to be working on a show that will bring the house down in 2020. If people need to read about others problems and heartache I wish they would disappear from here until June.

and hence why Jim calls you "Juliet" ???

which would make you troll on here more?

I think it would be neat if they did a Blues Brothers show. There is a lot of great music and artists they can feature, not to mention costuming. An Elvis show would also be a blast! On the other hand, I can see them going back to a concept show like Tilt.

It was nice when I took care of the Tuba section there in 1985. I had a guy from Crossmen and Bucs on the one end of the line and myself on the other. Things got done, everyone else was pretty much told to stay between us, it went well.

Independent contractors. Depending on the location, there may be a legal difference. Mike

I misspoke, my apologies. I’m old. While I stand on what I said about the marching members in the post quoted here I want to address the recently announced staff. I have every faith that Tony, JD, Adam, Jeremy, and Rob will be allowed to create what they feel is a program that not only challenges the performers but is also significantly more competitive than in recent years. This isn’t their first rodeo, so to speak. As for them sticking around? Why wouldn’t they? The fact that they came back to work with Regiment again speaks volumes. I think they want to see the corps return to it’s former glory. I, for one would love to see a ‘93/‘94- like style change. No, not bring back that style but rather bring something new to the table. Adam speaks about it in his recent interview. With Robert Cawthorne i can’t wait to see what’s in the works for Regiment 2020.

Still appears as though some on hear are hoping that the Cadets cease operations...sad. Thankfully the Cadets have a dedicated staff of good people who are ignoring the critics and are committed to moving the corps in a positive direction. Kudos to the good people at the helm of the Cadets!

Okay, but... A drum corps is not a business. It is a non-profit organization pursuing a mission. Oh, we like to talk about how drum corps should aspire to run "like a business", but that comparison only goes so far. Drum corps overextend their operations tremendously in their mission-driven quest to compete. Financially, the typical drum corps overextends about 50% beyond their "business" revenue, making up that difference through charitable donations/gaming. Their labor force is further overextended through liberal use of volunteers. Even when people are paid, it is usually fee-for-service, per-diem, or a very low pay rate... the positions are temporary, contractors... and the people performing them work long and irregular hours without punching a clock. With the exception of the executive director, there are no "employees". People do not work with a drum corps to make a proper living, to strike it rich, or because it is a good "business" - they work with a drum corps because they share in its mission. They are part of that overachieving team striving to compete. Anyone with your attitude should not work for a drum corps. If yours was the prevailing attitude, nearly every corps would cease to exist by Thanksgiving.

WCU had people from Crossmen, Cadets, Westshore, Scouts, Cavaliers, Bucs, Sunrisers, and Royal Guardsmen to name a few when I was there. A lot of very fine people have gone through there. I'm quite proud that WCU has finally got the recognition it's deserved even though it's not an FBS powerhouse.

Cadets Color Guard full staff announced... In other news..... Greg Lagola is at Cadets now?!? 😧 😍 Source: https://yea.org/cadets/staff

If there is anything on this site that is the most ridiculous reading, THIS is it. You think it's good to just give up? Is THIS the attitude by which you lead your life? How many people who have marched drum corps live by this attitude? At some point, instead of advocating the complete shutdown of a corps, maybe you should just stop following it and just stop contributing to this thread since you are the "give up" type.

The latter. As for the former, I hope and pray the members of 2019 Regiment learned that their work isn’t done yet. Build on your successes. The organization couldn’t ask for a more dedicated, hard working group of young men and women. Many marched their first year of drum corps, hopefully they will continue their marching experience with the corps who took them into the fold.]

Who is to say they haven’t?

I'm still waiting for $400 i was promised years ago, with a director revered as a saint in the activity. of course the corps is dead now but still

Lots of Motown. I’d be happy!

Really like the guard staff being assembled. My only wish is that the guard has equipment in their hands for all of the show and not a prop they are pushing around the field.

Yes - quite common. They are going through discovery and various motions. Once all this is complete they have to coordinate the schedules of the judge, prosecutor, & defense counsel. And there are other cases ahead of it in line going through the same process. One thing to watch - the closer it gets to trial, the more harsh any sentence from a plea bargain is likely to be. Typically the more work a prosecutor puts in, the bigger the penalty. I have a gut feeling on how this is going to play out, but I don't want to say because it is speculative. I wish there was a way I could write it & seal in some sort of electronic envelope that can be opened when the legal process s complete.

Many a Cadet went and marched WCU including the Litz.

They were Pi Percussion for last season in WGI. No ties to Pioneer. They are from my hometown, Romeoville, Illinois and rehearse at my old high school.

i know right? it's our field

Not only is that insensitive, it's wrong. I'll bet that "3rd baritone tech' was unaware before taking the job that the pay would come whenever it suited the corps best. More than likely that "3rd baritone tech" probably paid their membership fees on time and expected the corps act in similar fashion

Most of them are now... just saying. Yes. Not saying this is right (or wrong) - just that this is how the activity operates. If you are looking for a real job, where you would be an "employee" with a reliable pay schedule, you should look for a real business to provide that.

I am absolutely not in that camp.

No one is saying that. Are you debating yourself or someone in this thread. No one is saying "rules do not apply"

Good to see Greg Lagola is back with the Cadets. Not really surprising though...he has a long history with the Cadets. He is a good guy and he brings a lot of knowledge and experience!

Your Honor, I realize I promised to pay my employees every two weeks, but let me remind you that I am a not-for-profit and therefore the rules don’t apply to me.

I see you are still "Bitter Betty" as far as the Cadets go.

marching band led by Bucs alumnus and member of the Buglers hall of Fame Heidi Sarver

It’s not binary, George. I wish the Cadets the best but choosing to not pay people is hardly a “Side show.” It’s actually not legal. Choosing to not treat serious situations as serious situations is exactly what has gotten Cadets into the situation they are in now. Being a fan doesn’t mean you simply look the other way at bad news. It means you face it together, contribute to the solution, and hold them to a high standard. In any other business not paying your employees for months would be unthinkable. If my employer sent me this email I’d sue them before the sun set and a judge would immediately issue a summary judgment against my employer. You can actually be shut down as a business for this. It’s not a “side show.”

That downtown area on 273 is terrific. Lots of places to eat and drink, good "college town" atmosphere. I worked a DCI show at the stadium in the 1990s... a good venue. I know, I know... submit a bid.

Clearly, that would be the best outcome. But I'll settle for an undefeated season in 2020 and most of the captions. AND a first-time 3-peat in 2021 😉

I think they should go all the way back to broadway, off broadway, or local theater production.

I like waffles.

And one last thing: Do you honestly believe that TJ Doucette and April Gilligan would have stayed at (respectively) BD and Cadets so long merely because they're women? In the 90s, there were no better people cleaning DCI guards. Period. They won ALL the guard trophies from 1989-1999 inclusive. Add the evil males of Scott Chandler and Jim Moore, btw, who were invaluable. Ok, I'm (probably) finished. And why hasn't April been inducted into the DCI HOF? Boo!

Can't reward content if there's too much dirt to even get a read on the content

Bloo design team is at US Open TENNIS. Let the speculation on 2020 show begin in 3,2,1