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Yeah...and in case you didn't know...I started my thread first. ;)

I think there's something to be said for the fact that clips that are put out there of PR are most often big powerful ballad moments. Other corps get a lot of clips of them warming up playing the technical parts of the show and that's cool and yea, sure, regiment may not have too awful many of those, but they've still managed to do what regiment does best. Personally I think this is the best show they've put out in the last couple years (and I marched in the last couple years). Regardless of placement, Regiment is still Regiment. My experience performing with PR was everything I had hoped for and more even though we placed "poorly". I think that is what's important. Unless you're a vet who's been there a really long time, you don't know what the administration is doing or why and frankly you don't care. It's about making the most of your experience. I trusted that the staff working to give me a good experience and I was not disappointed.

I wrote the article. FWIW, that video is what DCI puts out as its sole explainer about the activity. It's featured prominently on the About page on the DCI website, and it's pinned to the top of its YouTube channel. People who know the activity intimately understand that the video has some out-of-date info. But for the uninitiated -- the overwhelming number of people reading an article like this from a major daily newspaper -- the video still has a wealth of info for those who never knew the activity existed.

Awesome Show in Ogden last night. The crowd was a little weak because there weren't any "big boys" in town. Not a problem. Every single corps was entertaining tonight, and those who came to watch despite not having a "headliner" were pleasantly surprised with the talent on the field. There wasn't one performance that I would miss to get a hot dog or go to the bathroom. It was a pretty cool evening and almost all of the corps played in the shade of the stadium, which seems to add some magic to their performance. ALL of the kids on the field tonight performed their guts out!!! Thunder--They made a Katy Perry tune work really well, felt like I was at the super bowl. Impulse--tuba line. tuba soloist. Very talented corps, despite limited numbers. Cascades. WOW. WOW. By far the easiest show to access for all of the fans tonight. Everyone kept looking at their program to see who this really was on the field cause we did not think it was the Cascades. DO NOT MISS THIS SHOW. Who knew that Soundgarden would be sound so amazing along with Holst? Disagree with the score they received. Oregon Crusaders--check out that bass line. again and again and again. Loved the overall visual staging for the whole show. Pacific Crest--Loved the Depeche Mode ballad. What a great corps! And the uniforms look slick! Academy-- Such a fun show to watch. I am so glad that they invite all ages to enter in and enjoy their shows. Beautiful guard tonight---watch for the words in the flags! Entertaining from top to bottom! BK--they are so talented. Some first timers I spoke to afterward commented on how beautiful the whole show was. That closer is going to will people to their feet. It seems like there is a pending re-write for the last 10 bars. Also, I don't think this hornline has been fully unleashed yet. Don't miss any of these corps if they come to your town. I would pay $30 for a seat to see just one of those that I saw tonight. I don't know what is happening in the Pacific Northwest, but I hope it keeps happening!

Sorry it took me so long to post this. I didn't want to text and die so since I'm home I can continue. One of the great things about watching a standstill performance, you don't have that distracting drill or guard work to grab your attention!!! While I was watching SCV I was constantly drawn to their cymbal line. They were located right behind the pit and in front of the battery and horns so they were in the perfect spot to witness what makes SCV's cymbal lines one of the best in the activity. I didn't feel like I was missing other parts of their show by taking the time to watch the cymbal players doing what they love to do. Then Phantom took the floor, and the performance that constantly drew my attention wasn't on the floor. Four rows in front of me and about ten feet to my right was where Phantom's conductor was putting on his show. I had the perfect angle to see the facial expressions, eye contact and the way he used his mouth to show when a breath was needed before the beginning of an attack. The way he conducted with his FACE was amazing!!! He looked like he was having the time of his life drawing the performance out of his corps!!! He was also very generous with his time talking to fans who either had a question for him or wanted a picture with him after their performance. From everything he showed me, I know who I will be rooting for for the DM of the year. If you have a chance, watch him. You won't regret it. But then there were also around 150 other members of Phantom that had to show us their heart after SCV took our breath away. Phantom didn't disappoint. I'm enjoying there show a lot more than I expected to after seeing them a couple of times online. Being able to concentrate on the music since I didn't have drill or guard work to draw my attention made me appreciate their book a lot more than I expected. And then there was Elsa!!! It was like lock me up in a concrete box and turn up the volume!!! Only thing that would have made the night any better is if SCV would have played Send in the Clowns!!! Knowing that this would most likely be an indoor performance before I drove more that 2 hours to get there, I seriously considered staying home. But there were four other people I was suppose to meet there and my ticket was already paid for so I made the trip. The disappointment from not seeing a field show paled in comparison to how much I enjoyed what was given to me in that gym. It stunned me how much I enjoyed Blue Saints. I believe they have a very good program tailored to the abilities of their members. Seeing how the Racine Scouts are progressing with the hand they were dealt, only four brass players and not even a single trumpet player among the four, shows the commitment their current staff has for their charges and how much the kids enjoy that rush from preforming in front of an appreciative crowd. Legend impressed me with their design. I believe there were 16 trumpets, 8 melophones, 16 baritones and 8 contras. That shows me their staff knew what they wanted, went after it and probably has a design to make it work for them on the field. Pioneer is definitely bigger and listening to their music and hearing some of the phrases that were hidden from me a couple of weeks ago when I saw them live, made me realize that there is still hope for my old ears to pick up new things the more I listen. SCV, I would not be disappointed if this is their year. But no matter the outcome, this show will be one of my favorites to listen to while I'm out driving or just needing a drum corps fix. Phantom has always been one of my favorites and this year will not change my opinion at all. So if you have the chance, don't be afraid to take in a show that might end up being a rain out. It might surprise you how much you will enjoy it if you can overlook what you think you are missing. Good night all. Thanks for letting me ramble!!!

The wait is over folks. Version 1.1.0 of DrumScorps has been released and contains a number of new features and enhancements: Rankings - Full integration with DCP's Caption Ranking system. Check out rankings for any caption and any division. (You can pinch to zoom here to make things easier to read) Score history - Scoring history for individual corps. Just tap on a corps when checking out scores for an event. App now refreshes when resuming. No need to pull to refresh when re-opening the app. Event list on the tour page automatically scrolls to the next event I hope everyone enjoys these new features and as always, thanks for downloading! It may take up to 24 hours before you see the update in your app store.

Tekk Ive never seen you post so much on DCP. I'm sure it's a combination of excitement (show is awesome) and nerves (god i hope they dont screw it up). Enjoy the season :-)

While everyone is busy hating on Phantom, I thought I'd share this video that I just discovered on Youtube. These are warm ups from right before Semis last August. If anyone has listened to their 2014 concert in the park, you'll hear what a MASSIVE improvement they made in their hornline through the season. Anyone who thinks Phantom sounds tentative now will just need to wait it out and watch their sound grow stronger as the season goes by.

Open Class 2 Music City 58.15 1 Legends 59.6 World Class 5 Jersey Surf 61.85 4 Blue Stars 74 3 Madison Scouts 74.7 2 Cavaliers 78 1 Santa Clara Vanguard 82.3 SCV means business

Go Red Team!

Something to remember about the yearly design fads for DCI is that drum corps no longer exists in a vacuum. The same designers design drum corps who design marching band, who design winter guard and percussion... What seems like during the summer is suddenly a "thing" has generally been gaining steam for a bit, just through different circuits. Mike

Thank you for writing the article.

Just wanted to pop into this thread and say that I am in love with the ballad this year. To be honest I've never been a BD fan but the ballad this year is so gorgeous. Great stuff.

Finally, my first live showing of Bluecoats, PR, and Troop in 2015! I will give this review my best shot. I liked or appreciated something about every performance. Racine Scouts- I think the show idea is good. They try to convey the story of Van Gogh when he was insane, painting from his wild imagination. The production contains a "Van Gogh" figure represented by a guard member, and a painting easel that is often a visual focus. I believe the painting is "Starry Night", though it is hard to tell in that when it is finally revealed at the end of the performance, it is the size of a children's book. That is a silly design flaw if you ask me. Really? Make it 8 times bigger. I can't imagine you cannot find even free resources to make it so. The percussion section is full and they are extremely aggressive in their approach, but also have moments of quiet, tasteful parts that are pretty cool to listen to. The guard is okay, having work completed in about half the show. The paintbrush props for the guard are clever, but need to be brighter. The vocalist in the ballad did a nice job. I will not belabor the issue that there are only four brass in that those kids probably feel extremely vulnerable already. I thought that when I could hear them, they did some decent things, including a ballad moment on the front sideline. For our oldest corps still in existence, I tried to fully appreciate their efforts tonight and hope they have a fun summer. Colt Cadets- This show was a clear step up from Racine. Their show theme is "Fire and Ice". It seems interesting to me that the things I would have guessed were most easily put together (the idea of fire with aggressive music, fire imagery, a fiery voice over, etc. would be easier than a transparently scored ballad, and super exposed visual and musical ideas) though I thought they pulled the "Ice" stuff off better than the "fire" stuff. They have fire influenced flag designs that work well. In the Ice portion, the brass and then percussion take off their jackets to reveal a blue and white top that supports the Ice theme. They have somewhat of an open class air about them that I thought speaks well for the design team and instructional staff. They of course have a lot to clean up in that they were pretty dirty. I did enjoy them, though. SOA- The show starts with a fine soloist and then bam, we are hit with some brass impact and a short loud intro. You can hear the Tara's theme in the intro and at other times, though it is pretty altered. I did not feel an old school Spirit connection to it though. The brass have a big sound and at times the pitch locked in pretty well. As the program persisted, pitch seemed a real struggle. There were some interesting electronic fire sound effects and the guard is wearing what looks to be a theme-supported fire-type design on a dark unitard-like base. I thought the drum writing was cool at times, but those times seemed drum-centric and not really supportive or idiomatic to the show theme. They also had some pretty big snare blow-ups and a tenor moment that seemed like someone forgot the change. They hit you with sound and not much else in way of variety of effect. They do have a fantastic soloist that plays very musically. There was some play-acting that I think was intended to display oppression or maybe being caught by a fire, but it was not sold well tonight. The color guard is still underdeveloped and is not too often integrated into the drill. They did have a few long guard phrases that were pretty clean. It seems to me the designers need to make a lot of changes in order to keep up with everyone else's modern day shows. The production ended in a major key and was much more upbeat than the rest of the show, but I am not sure what caused that. I had an hour-long car ride to think about my review and had the hardest time formulating what I would say about Spirit. It is like they are a rough diamond that you are looking at through six feet of dirty glass. It seems like parts and pieces are there somewhere, it just doesn’t all connect or communicate an overall idea or aesthetic. I was hoping that what previous viewers were saying would have proven different by the show last night, but it does seem another poorly designed offering. Still time for changes, but not too much. Colts- Another narration show, which is fine, but if you are going to claim that niche (which is original), do it in such a way that everyone really likes it, really understands it, is pulled in by it, and remembers it. I cannot say that is yet happening to any measurable degree. I wanted to get my negatives out of the way first- All that said, I do like the show. The brass have some good punch and like most, still have some balance issues and cracked pitches to clean up here and there. The guard is all in various costumes to fit the 1940s noir Radio Show theme. They were quite good and extremely well integrated into the visual package. There is a tall stage on the right side of the pit where actors occasionally go to play-act certain scenes- that all needs much more development. The radio announcers/personalities are in front of the stage. I almost think they should be on the stage the entire time, as that would help with visual focus- and, if actors come up there from time to time, we can get that they are all in the studio together. I guess I want to see what the show announcement described as the audience seeing behind the scenes of making a murder mystery radio show. The drums are fine and will clean up. The guard will clean up as well. The drill is super well done and will help them stay above several groups. Feet are coming along really nicely. If the right changes are made (a parent in the seat next to me said they have made changes the last few days. Some were in the show, some not yet), this could be the dark horse corps come August. They just have to be the right changes. I think the instructional staff will get them where they need to be, the designers just need to really make the narration and show so well intergraded and complementary that as I said before, we are pulled in immediately and are on the edge of our seats following along with great anticipation for what is coming next. A killer ending (pun intended) story-wise and drum-corps-doing-drum corps-wise could put it over the top in regards to jumping a place or three. Troopers- They come on the field and just seem to carry themselves in a way that proudly says Troopers. I am not sure exactly what that is or how it is accomplished, but it is palpable. All the talk about comparisons to "Triple Crown" are perhaps justified, but I found myself not really making or even thinking about those comparisons. The guard does take on the role of horses and the horn line, the trainers. White fences are used to create different stages, looks, and toward the end, one big horse corral. The brass sound spectacular most of the show. Better than Spirit or Colts. The drum line is fine, and had a few really crystal clear moments in the show that may be a sign of some good cleaning starting to happen. The first half is a bit more traditional Troopers. The ballad is good, but seems to need some tweaking for the effect to come across more powerfully. The closer is the most non-Troopers and I really like it. They are not performing it as well as the rest of the show, but I imagine it has been on the field the least amount of time. The guard is better than last year. I wish at least one flag was a bit more colorful, impactful. At the end, all the horses are pushed into a open corral-like stage using the fences on the right side of the field. As the corps proper moves toward them, the horses “escape” and run off the field. I think it pretty effective considering the show is called “Wild Horses”, but it seems that just before that moment, we need a bigger wow. I really enjoyed them and felt they placed where they should tonight, though Colts maybe start invading their scoring space really soon. Phantom- Like Troppers, there is a persona that the corps carries as they come on the field, but it isn’t the same aura that they have had for decades, and even three or four years ago. As of the past few years, they always seem to look dumpy/apologetic to me. Part of it is how they wear their plume. Letting it sag so much in the middle that it bounces and flails around when they march. It drives me crazy. Coats used to do that too. Part of it seems to be the body training in that while they march fine, their body stuff looks stiff, un-natural, forced, not ergonomic. The show is a bit old school, but I really enjoyed it. A lot of that is because of the guard and how much they add to the theme and how well they carry themeselves as you think Audrey Hepburn would. I am able to dispel disbelief in that of course Audrey would not march around a field throwing sixes or jazz run at 180 beats a minute. Somehow through the drum corps guard requisites, they look elegant and mature, calm and in control. The costume and flags, the arm poofs and skirt change for the ballad are so well conceived. While praising the guard, I cannot short change the brass that sound just wonderful. Phantom-rich and broad. Their book seems a little thin compare to others, but the book is pretty true to the originals and not full of technique for technique’s sake. Not my favorite arrangement of "Claire de Lune" however. It came across as stale. The drums are good as well. The snare tuning seemed a bit boxy to me and I don’t think the heads spoke well in that stadium. The drill is big as usual, but I liked it more than the past few years. The opening set is stunning and the other concrete images that appear add to the programmatic intent. The ending needs to be changed. That is probably planned. It will be interesting to see where the judges place them in that their show is very different than everyone else’s. I do think they could modernize and still be their typical big orchestral selves. It seems though that Cadets and Crown have taken on that role, at least this year. Bluecoats- My, my, my. What was that? Its like the first time you see the B-2 Stealth Bomber. Its flies by at break neck speed, looks nothing like anything you have ever seen before, and leaves you slack-jawed and asking “What the hell was that? It was awesome!” This is a game changer. Some have described BD as that the past several years- not BDs moniker any longer. They brass, drum, and guard amazingly well. The guard costumes of various swirled colors that is then used as the palate for all the flag designs works really well against the corps proper uniform. The drum line and brass are again smokin’, both candidates for top honors, albeit in company with several other strong candidates. The rolling silver human-sized hamster cages are cool and used really well for all kinds of purposes, not just staging. The talk of the town is of course the use of electronics. Talk about spending considerable time thinking all of this out. Speakers in front and four across the field are used in so many ways: 1. Sounds to add to the brass/percussion orchestration for various colors. 2. Electronic effects that are on top of the orchestration. 3. Side to side effects. 4. Doppler effects. 5. Live music played by small ensembles that are recorded live and then looped back through the speakers (WHAT?!) 6. Random short sound effects that jump from speaker to speaker. There is so much to take in at one time. I cannot wait to see it again. Head and shoulders above the other groups in all areas. They have some transitions to work out, especially getting soloists, small ensembles out and back in to the drill. Regardless of any current flaws, a B-2-Bomber-Wow! if there ever has been one in DCI. Afterburner: With so many different approaches to effect, a very healthy thing for the activity in my view, I wanted to spend some time doing research as to how DCI judges deal with the differences. How do they compare apples to oranges, as they say. Though I did not find much about the actua judging, I did find myself thinking about how design should use the sheets in the winter when constructing the shows. It seems some staffs hardly consider many of the things indicated as the foundation/repertoire for creating effect. I looked up the DCI GE sheets this morning. I was surprised that there are so few words on the left side of the sheet, the repertoire side. There are only five bullet points, fifteen words total, and three of those words are two ands and one of. The third bullet point is “Programmatic Interpretation” and the fifth is “Creativity, Originality, and Artistry”. These two bullet points seem to me as the most critical in the winter when design teams are initially creating the show. Not that it is a checklist sort of planning, but a constant reminder that with so few words on the sheet (which I think makes a lot of sense- clear, to the point, not check-listy), you need to constantly ask if you are planning for these elements in your effect design. How often? At what points over the timeline of the show? The fourth bullet point, “Variety of Effects”, seems the next thing to consider, though hardly separated from point three and five- all important things to consider as the show design is coming together. Then point two, “Audio and Visual Coordination”, seems a logical next step in making the effects happen with both audio and visual elements. Finally, bullet point one, “Audience Engagement”. Through the other four bullet points, this is of course your ultimate goal. I think it important to consider the audience as the old and young, seasoned and new fan, first time viewers and the judges. A strictly old school show is a risk. A overtly heady show with no understanding to anyone but the design team is also a risk. How do you engage everyone while being creative, artistic, original, allowing for your chosen programmatic theme to be followed? With last night’s show, it seems that some staffs considered all of this carefully and worked to have their repertoire effect you every second of the show. Every second. Others seem to have effects that come around less often and in some cases, much less frequently, sometimes using the tried and true, the predictable and unoriginal. While everyone has some of those in their show, and they should ( loud is good, unison tosses and catches are good, fast clean rolls are good), some teams seem to really work to up the frequency of effects or constant engagement. I think you can stick to your niche and do all of these things. Winter planning seems so critical. The days of writing three tunes, handing the brass book to the drum guy, then handing all that to the drill writer, then handing all of that to the guard person are clearly over.

mommadci is periscoping the encore. https://www.periscope.tv/w/aG8nVzMyODEzMjd8MzY5ODIwNjCOQW1lW84mRJTUHFX4UM2otQcszlCI1KZ7IKzAG7c09Q==

Or both ;)

i like talking to myself

But what about the greater pseudo-narrative implications of the mass in dynamic weight that can cause psychosis of the kinetic kind? (They play the loud good and move legs at same time. I think it good. That all I need.)

This year, he has requested the 150K be paid out in 10 dollar bills.

Comments like that make me very happy, sometimes I feel like it's me and just a handful of people that actually follow and watch these shows. This year especially, they're just downright fun. I'd love to see a show with all those corps in them. Thanks for the thoughts!

They should put him on a lazy susan and she could spin him lol

I say the whole show within 3, top 3 within 1. Troopers, The Academy, or Colts on Top with Spirit and Pacific Crest not far behind. All trading captions. Gonna be a fun recap to look at!

Guns don't make time. People make time.

How silly that a 10 second change can ruin an entire show for you.

Think about it; Cadets could win GE, percussion, and horns. Crown could take color-guard (finally) away from BD. It could happen folks. Irving Fan of the Arts

Following the pack is the opposite of innovation. it’s fine if you want them to be more like Crown or Blue Devils but I prefer variety. The way it’s headed, marching a traditional yet challenging drill will be innovative as everything old is new again and not many are even attempting it

I know, each time they repped that, I wanted to yell at my phone "just do the z-pull already!" They'll surely give more shape/direction coming out of that TEN.

I'm having a hard time telling whether I like this year's ballad better or last year's. But both are in my list of favorite ballads of all time. They're both a pretty big departure from what we've gotten from BD in terms of ballads since 08, which I think is a good thing. Variety doesn't hurt :)

So, it's now 5 days into this thread. Have The Cadets innovated yet? -Mike

He is serious, and don't call him Shirley.

They will add more at the very end.

i cant

I'm either crazy or that BD 2014 score is wrong.

Alright folks. where are the people who have vids of the changes. pm me

My son had some serious reservations about the drill design during his rookie year. He spoke to me about them. But you know what he did? He performed the drill he was given to the best of his rookie ability and BK managed to get 10th place with Avian. That designer moved on at the end of that season. That's the way it should work.

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As someone who was drawn to march in the Cadets in the early 90s because their show designs were cutting edge, and pushing the boundries of the activity, it is hard to say this, but as I watched the live stream last night I really felt like they have been left behind in some key areas of the activity. Like it or not, body movement and staging are the current trend in the activity. I struggle to distinguish if it is just the uniform that makes the Cadets seem outdated at this point, or if it really is the show design. It kind of reminds me of where Blue Devils were in the late 80s early 90s. They became stale, always started the season at or near the top, and inevitably ended up in 4th place at finals. In '94 they finally made Scott Chandler their program coordinator, hired Ryan from Star and revamped their visual. This was really the beginning of the modern Blue Devils, and while the current iteration really started in '08 the "modernization" occurred back then. I read the comments about Cadets being....boring....same old same old....and not cool, and it is really hard to see, but I understand why. Anyone else have opinions on what they could do to be more "modern"? Do they have to ditch the uniform or corps colors, incorporate more staging instead of drill? etc....

http://corpsreps.com/scores.cfm?view=scoreshow&showid=1975017 Exactly 40 years to the day, same show but different corps.

I know, what a terrible thing to say :)

Yes it does. Welcome to the dark side, we have cookies.

I suppose its all in one's preferences and particular tastes. If one is asking me do I prefer loud, jarring, dissonant brass chord segments, or melodic singing segments, I'd probably prefer the latter over the former. But again, I do recognize that some people would prefer we have neither in Drum Corps. So its all really in the realm of personal likes, dislikes, preferences, and so forth.

Wait they added lyrics to it? That sucks

Fantastic weather for the show! Unlike Cheyenne last year, OMG! (rain out) I wish I could be there. You guys have a blast, and then tell me all about it!

What Garfield said to some degree, sure. But again, over the past couple of years, I feel Cadets have been trying to adapt to the rules of a game that other corps have defined. And that is always the nature of how this activity has evolved over the decades. I simply want to see them making the rules again. That's all.

This is a pretty tough book musically. I Saw a lot of the trumpet parts many months ago. I don't think it has to be dark and foreboding to win over fans. I flipping LOVE this out of madison. IT makes a lot more sense from a continuity standpoint than last year. I think it will absolutely sizzle at finals, and can't wait to see it. This arrangement is definitely loud, and what I consider just flat classic scouts. I don't actually give a flying poo where it finishes competitively. I doubt I'm alone. PS I have it slotted 10th

New ending coming, announced today. :)

I'll start with the bad & end with the good. My Wife & I arrived at Warhawk Stadium about 6:00 & there was 1 will call window with about 20 people in line & 1 ticket window with no one in line. We purchased our tickets for $45 each online & had to pick them up at will call. We waited about 10 minutes to get our tickets. No big deal. We walk up the hill behind the stadium, & we had planned on getting in one of the concession lines, but only 2 of the 4 concession windows was open & there were huge lines at each, probably a couple of hundred people in each. We skipped that & waited to enter the stadium in section D. Upon entry we begin looking for the row numbers & none of the rows are marked. Someone in the crowd points out that the rows are marked in red chalk on the concrete. Unfortunately this chalk was worn from people walking on it. We finally determine which row is row 38 & proceed to make our way to seats 38 & 39, which were on the aisle when we looked at the stadium layout when we purchased the tickets. The stadium diagram showed an aisle between seat 39 & seat 1. Turns out seats 38 & 39 are actually in the middle of section D...with no aisle...and, we find out that the rows are all off by 1 number so what was marked as row 38 is actually row 39. We sit down & everyone around us says that they though they purchased an aisle seat. Lots of people entering the stadium & aren't sure where their seats are...& not an usher to be found. We watched Music City & I thought I would go check the length of the concession lines & they are still ridiculously long with only 2 of the 4 windows open. Lots of people are complaining & are not happy. There were people in our row who went to wait in the concession line & missed at least 2 drum corps performances. My Wife got up & went to concessions before SCV & waited in line for water & when she finally got to the counter, they were all out of water...& the kids working concessions were using their cell phones to determine how much to charge the customers. All they had left was Pepsi & Mountain Dew. How in the world do you run out of water? How in the world do you not have a concessions system for adding & tallying a customers order? There was a lady who was really upset reading the riot act to one of the concession workers, & he said that there were 4 times as many people in attendance as they were expecting. Seriously? There is a long history of drum corp shows at this stadium. They know how many people are expected to attend. Whoever did the planning for this show did a horrible job. It was small time & bush league to say the least. I'm not sure who bears the responsibility for this mess, DCI or the Madison Scouts, Nevertheless, we will absolutly not return to Whitewater again. Now for the good. My Wife & I are Dino's who miss traditional drum corp & loath electronics, props & the goofy cheap looking costumes...but for the first time in a long time we really enjoyed all of the performances. Random thoughts: Colts sounded great but killed their mojo with the narration. I didnt time it but I'm estimating that the Colts horn line plays the least amount of time of all of the world class drum corps. I wanted to hear the corp play, but instead I had to listen to annoying narration & mediocre singing. The storyline payoff just wasn't there. I really liked Phantom. Lots of people here are criticizing them, but I liked their show & sound, & loved the closer. Snare line was clean & better than I expected. Blue Stars just didnt do it for me. Cavies drum line was very good with a great snare line that was very clean, Horns were sloppy & overall this show just didnt do much for me. SCV. I don't like the new uniforms at all. I miss the classic Vanguard uni. Please return to it & stay with it. Great show, great drum line. Bluecoats. My favorite corp performance of the night. Great show, great horn line, great drum line, great guard. Fantastic ending. Look for the pitch bend at finals. Madison Scouts. I love this show. Its a throwback & its jazzy. Love the guard unis. Classy & masculine. Snare line was dirty tonight & I was disappointed in their performance. Hornline sounded good at FFF but the isolated staccato passages have a ways to go. Great to see Madison look like Madison again with a variation of the classic mid 90s uniform.

I disagree that the TOS can't restrict such use. Making a contract not to do something that is otherwise legal is enforceable, so long as there is an exchange of consideration. (In this case, money in exchange for access to video streams.) If DCI got its act together (LOL) and updated its terms of service, it would certainly be in its best interest to prohibit grabbing the streams, simply because DCI clearly doesn't hold the copyright licenses required to distribute archived performances of performances. I can certainly see some lawyer for a publisher taking DCI to the cleaners because they didn't cover their ###. (Not to say that amending the TOS would actually make people stop -- it just wouldn't be DCI's problem anymore.)